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It'll never be as fleeced as the person that buys it.

It's like any effective tool, it's open to abuse. I agree that it can get a bit much if someone is strobing every little dark corner but then the same criticism could be levelled at people like Greg and JC at the Mall who use night vision and/or excessive amounts of pyro. Someone will always have a problem with anything that puts the other player at a tactical advantage. Does a tactical advantage make something wrong? Not in my book, no.

Thanks that cheered me up no end. I was worried about approaching 40 let alone 50.I feel young again. ☺ Any 21yr olds chime in on this one you will be told to f*ck off.?

Legit. Whiney bitch.

I have it It's sooooo huuggggeee. I've been playing about 30-40 hours, just doing side ops and building stuff up and I'm on about 10% complete. Not really developed any of the story mode yet though, but it seems good and it's really clever. I spent ages sneaking around getting resources, always using the tranq gun and going for headshots, doing missions at night....Now the games adapted and the enemies wear helmets and have flash lights and NV lol So I've had to change tactics. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who, like me, follows the series.

I refer to the few hairs I have left on my head which are mainly grey well them grey hairs on my head and arms chest back (not gonna lower the tone even further by checking for grey pubes etc...) back on track - I refer to my ol bastid grey hairs as quite simply " Threads of Wisdom " yeah I'm an old fart but have attained snippets of wisdom by learning from my many many screw ups or mistakes over many moons/decades (still aquiring more wisdom and I still screw up - just hopefully a little less often than in my younger "know it all" days) Fact of the matter is I am now wiser and realise that I will never know it all - in fact very little but old enough now to not give a to$$ about trying to prove it to them youngsters anymore They will learn like we all did falling ar$e over tit I'm still an ol' grumpy bastid - just a more mellow ol' grumpy bastid

Right, Ground Zero (which I assume is a regular site of yours) limits DMR semi only AEGs to 425FPS. You'll need about an M130 spring to get you near that, but you'll need a whole host of other stuff to get it accurate. Have a look at this: http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/43-longrange-aegs/892-holy-grail-building-your-dmr-aeg.html and then decide if the minimal extra range is worth the loss of full auto and accepting an MED restriction.

Careful on the cheap plastic covers, mine are so murky and warped that It's pointless.

How about the medical reasons for it being a bad idea I've known people with epilepsy & it not hinder them in sports so for that reason I think there a bad idea And before people jump on the band wagon & say "well they shouldn't play it" is the same as saying a person in a wheel chair shouldn't play (and I know they do from photographic evidence on here)

I'd rather get strobed than have someone shine a laser in my eyes. The times i've fought against people using them it's just annoying more than anything, like if someone kept flicking a light switch on and off whilst you are watching TV.

Just shine a high powered torch back at it and it nullifies the strobe effect. As for JC and the night vision hes a barsteward but its all fair. Airsoft is never really a level playing field and we all take whatever advantage we can get.

Hey I loved my old escort.But that was 19 years ago, god I feel old.

I'd wager he's already got one given the date of this thread and that he's listed an MP5 in his profile field.

I think that using a strobe is a legitimate tactic. A stobe is supposed to be disorientaing and help to mask the user's position. However, the strobe is no worse than using my Fenix PD35 on turbo beam at 960 lumens for blinding light. I can understand your concern with blind firing but players still hose down a corridor on full auto in the dark. I like the on off nature of the strobe light, and am not eplilectic (no idea if it would trigger a reaction). I have used a strobe to draw fire so that other team members can identify the opposition position and take them on. I have more issue with walking into things or not seeing clearly due to my goggles fogging up.

cheesy unsportsman-like play to my mind but i can see i'm in the minority lol.

Really? What Fords have you been driving?!?!?!

Blind firing is dangerous because you may put your muzzle behind someone's safety glasses or in their ear and shoot them from point blank. Strobe torches do not cause any harm. And if you get shot while using your strobe torch, it won't hurt any more than if it hit you without using one. If you mean someone closer to the shooter could get hurt, remember there will be a big silhouette indicating that someone is very close to you... In case you didn't hear them shooting you

Thats why I just joke around a lot of the time. Sometimes you know before you start you are wasting your breath.

yeah but fleeced lined rifle bag guys.... gimme the paypal details bro coz I want dat sick best mofo gun evvvvvaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh FANTASTIC - just don't do this bad boy justice "can provide better pictures" - nah its looks pretty bollox enough fanx

You can buy a stfu lot of high end gun(s), top price batteries, charger along with stfu loadout n stuff Nothing wrong with that - people can spend as much or as little as they deem fit or can afford Usually though most go for a more modest but half decent first investment I keep comparing it all to ya first car - yes you can get a new/recent BMW if you wish but most go for the bashed up Ford (TriggerHappy will no doubt make some "bashed up G&G/Ford's of airsoft" joke no doubt) batteries - usually many settle for 7.4v lipo's about a min 20c but if possible go for 25c burst rating 35c is optional but all of this depends on what is available to fit in ya gun 11.1v lipo's usually are a bit too much to use on stock guns and trigger contacts can arc out/ burn up with carbon deposits much quicker there is 9.9v LiFe batteries which offer a middle or stop gap boost without going nutz on 11.1v however the range of LiFe batteries is very limited and tbh I don't think they are that good on tweaked guns stock guns you get a bit more zest than a 7.4v - tweaked guns though a 9.9v LiFe seems very very little difference (they don't seem to have the raw grunt lipo's can offer for response when running a more powerful neodym motor etc...) Chargers - well at a push almost anything will do as they are smart chargers that should stop charging when done Easiest model is a B3 type as it plugs straight into mains wall socket - so no psu unit required But I have used the really cheapo few quid ones with a router psu trickling away for a while now.... The above cheapo basic chargers do the job at a push but no other options slow charge - can't monitor each cell's voltage or adjust charging rate and cut off point B6 type - watch out for clones btw, these B6 have numerous features and programme modes adjustable cut off voltage/charge rate etc...... They usually need a decent psu but there is a mains version - just has a transformer psu unit above the charger circuit Me personally would suggest either a basic B3 type to get going or a B6 + psu if you can afford it Batteries - lipo if buying new & forget the old school nimah type The gun you buy will dictate what options/price you face Buying batteries from Airsoft shops will very likely mean paying more than going to a RC shop But often the bespoke "airsoft" lipo's will cost more than the block type batteries used in most RC stuff If buying a gun with a more bespoke thin stick or nunchuck type of battery then range/capacity/price will leave you with fewer choices HobbyKing either UK or EU warehouse is best/quickest delivery option with less delay and no possible import duty to pay They sell both clone B6 or genuine B6 chargers - youtube vids show you how to tell the difference Many have bought what they thought was genuine ones from fleabay/amazon only to find out they are snide copies (copies are not that bad but for a little bit more get a genuine B6 from a reputable seller) Avoid the "B" grade lipo's too on HobbyKing HK International I have been told as they are just the reject crap batteries Like most stuff - you can get by on a budget but don't scrimp too much or you will end up with real crap (eg: JBBG plinkers, crap defective bb's that jam, dodgy eyepro that does jack to protect your eyes etc..)

Once you find a gun you like: research the hell out of it. Some guns have common issues that you won't get told about when you buy it but looking online or asking people will tell you. It's worth taking the time to know you're buying a quality gun that will last you a long time. Also don't let people tell you not to buy certain guns because they're not "newbie friendly". When I first started everyone I asked told me not to bother with gas rifles because they're not great for new players. Looking back I wish I hadn't listened as I find gas rifles a lot easier to maintain and use than AEGs - anything other than a v6 gearbox (used in P90s and M14s) I won't touch as I find the trigger mechanism too fiddly. Downsides though, with gas guns, are a lower mag cap and fewer aftermarket parts. For upgrading you'd be better served going for an AEG or spring sniper rifle. Not being "newbie friendly" could be said of sniper rifles. What proffrink said is true to a degree: they need a fair bit of upgrading to be really effective - especially for high FPS set ups (the main benefit of sniping). However this isn't set in stone since a stock Tokyo Marui VSR can be very effective without any upgrades. The hop up on this thing is just magical and gives an impressive range to a low FPS rifle (280-300). In addition it is one of the easiest rifles you'll ever have to take apart. The main reason why people don't recommend sniper rifles is you don't get an accurate feel for the game that you would with a regular AEG or gas rifle. It takes a more patient mindset to properly snipe in airsoft and isn't as "fun" for most new players who want to get stuck in rather than hanging back from the main fire fights. If you think you'd prefer this style of game then go ahead and buy one but be prepared for a lot frustrating moments of people not taking hits and watching your shots be knocked off course by the wind, twigs, etc.

I've used several AEPs in the past and though they are very practical I just prefer my gas pistols more. Very useful in CQB but too underpowered to be useful at woodland sites. That said a compact, light sidearm with the option to go full auto is nothing to be disregarded if you use sniper rifles. Very useful in those "OH F***!" moments when you run into several players at close range.

£220 for a stock well mb03?

If you have really caught the bug get your Ukara membership sorted and then buy which ever gun you think is going to suit you. As long as its from one of the big manufacturers you wont really go wrong. As for cost most people will say dont spend too much but I differ from that, pay as much as you need to make you happy go into a shop and handle a few you will soon know what you like.

P* Jack all painted up

OKTO EIGHT MILSIM proudly presents Operation CLAW HAMMER Mission This will be a weekend game consisting of two 8hr COMBAT OPERATIONS. LOCATION EVERSLEY, Fleet Road (A327) Eversley Hampshire RG27 0PY "The Valley" boasts mixed terrain supported by a silver birch, pine and rhododendron forest. With natural hills and a sweeping valley that passes around its heights. DATE 5 - 6 DECEMBER 2015 COST £60 (£25 non refundable deposit required at time of booking) Players must be 16 years of age or over. TIMINGS STARTEX 0900 5th December ENDEX 1700 6th December FORCES - Total 50 places NATO Coalition: 15 places Moldistan Defence Force (MDF- Government Army): 10 places Moldistan Peoples Front (MPF - Rebels): 20 places Russian Force: 5 places Uniform/Loadout Requirements: Full details are on the group but basically in overview: NATO Coalition - 100% MTP or Multicam (AOR2, ATACS etc also considered) - NATO weapons MDF - 100% DPM or Flecktarm - NATO or Eastern Bloc assault rifles MPF - Top or Bottoms in DPM or Flecktarn - remainder in solid colours like tan, green, grey, etc - No helmets or boonies. Mainly Soviet weaponry. Russian - 100% Russian camo (Partizan, Digital Flora or recognised specific others). Helmets, Peaked caps or balaclavas. Russian weapons. EQUIPMENT You will need to bring all your own food and water and the means to cook with. No Two Tone weapons - limited ammunition and low cap/mid cap use only. Radios optional but highly recommended (Baofeng UV5 @ approx £25). Free Overnight Camping SCENARIO Location - the former Soviet Republic of Moldistan. A massive seam of high grade, Titanium yielding ore was discovered in Moldistan last year, unexpectedly propelling this sleepy, poor, woodland country into the limelight of international politics and high level commerce. Operation Claw Hammer is the fourth game in this series (although its not necessary for new players to have played at the previous games - its easy to just pick up this game at the latest stage). In previous games, the allegedly corrupt and autocratic president of Moldistan, Aleksandr Gretsky manipulated both the US and Russian governments to get the best price for the valuable commodity coming from his new Titanium mine at Gorazh. The Peoples Front of Moldistan (MPF), an anti-Gretsky political body of former governmental soldiers and radicals have taken to the forest to avoid persecution. Their leader Nikolay Jakov, a modern day Robin Hood has surrounded himself with his version of the merry men and together they harass and harry the government army at every turn. Since the Titanium was discovered, Moldistan has become an interesting proposition for the leading industrial nations. In his latest chess move, Gretsky has shunned Russia, his traditional ally and signed a lucrative supply deal with the US. In the last game, Operation Firestorm, we saw a US Private Military Contractor team working for the Moldistan government and augmenting the loyalist soldiers of the Moldistan Defence Force. Shadowy Coalition Special Forces were observed in the forest, presumably carrying out secret orders for persons unknown. Prime Minister Borodin made a promotional visit to the small provincial village of Tsiara and the villagers rose up in protest, forcing the PM to flee for his life. Riot shields were deployed after an old woman threw a cabbage at Borodin, sparking off the protesting mob. In the closing hours of the operation, the MPF seized the Gorazh Titanium Mine, the distribution warehouse and the railhead away from the government. The MPF have started to work the mine for their own ends and are exporting Titanium across the northern border to waiting Russian buyers. This is all now consigned to history. Lets move forward to now. Gretsky has been humiliated on an international stage. The Russians are laughing at him because they have their hands on the Titanium for a fraction of the official government price. Washington is angry with Gretsky because their defence industries are deprived of the valuable commodity simply because the Moldistan government is unable to control the rebels. If President Gretsky is to stay at the helm, he now needs to show that he can regain control of the Titanium and suppress the rebel movement permanently. He has instructed his Commander-in-Chief to wield a mighty claw hammer to lever the rebel scum out, like a nail from a floorboard or face the consequences. The latter in Moldistan usually means a last cigarette and a firing squad. Operation Claw Hammer is in progress. Gretsky is like a rat at his most dangerous when cornered. This small country, wedged between Europe and Russia has the ability to start the next global conflict. Gretsky has requested NATO boots on the ground in Moldistan by complaining that the rebels are only growing in strength because they are being armed and trained directly from the Kremlin. This is your chance to make a difference. MPF, MDF, NATO Coalition or the mysterious Russian force that have been spied in Moldistan... Who you going to fight for ? Booking opens 17th September 2015 Please book online at: https://www.facebook.com/events/542936479190728/ For further information please contact - oktoeightmilsim@gmail.com or call 07535507950 OKTO EIGHT ADMIN

I am SO hyped for this game. Not only does it look fantastic both graphics and gameplay-wise, but the subject matter seems really interesting. I don't know of any other game that has covered the Russio-Afghan war before, full-stop - and if I know Kojima, he will be tying in plenty of in-depth history to accompany his own specific brand of wacky. I am a huge fan of MGS and I'm pretty sure once this comes out, this is all I will be playing for months on end. Anyone else?

Extra ooomph you say? HK51B - beefed-up MP5-ish body belt-fed 7.62.

for british gear http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/

I personally still really like the G3 and wish a more modern airsoft version came out. The old TM one is made from that creaky plastic all their old rifles used, so a G&P or TM Recoil with a metal receiver would be nice. MP5s are still a great design too, although i'd have to get a gas version if it wasn't one with a solid butt stock as the battery space is iffy otherwise. As far as pistols go the USP and HK45 are still two of the best looking as far as i'm concerned. To be honest though I like the majority of the guns H&K have released, i'll put some pics up of my guns if people don't get salty about specific gun threads again. Although I think H&K guns is broad enough to not flood the board with loads of threads like individual gun models would do.

Yes, Rich at Gound Zero has a damned good safety briefing which is comical but memorable. The site limit for semi auto Aeg's is 425fps locked off. 350 full auto, but my son and I have other g&gs to use for that.

Without knowing how high you want to go it's difficult to recommend a spring. You are aware that you would also have to lock the gearbox to semi auto only for a DMR? Do you know what your sites restrictions are for DMRs?

Hillman Imp - jeez that was an odd vehicle yup my parents got a Sunbeam - wish they got the Lotus Sunbeam Worse one was an Alpine - jeez a bag of bolts rattling in a Quality Street tin sounded quieter than that They always sounded like the had no friggin oil in 'em - front wheel drive engine screeming let me out let me out !!!!!

right I think this forum needs a H&K thread

Mind you they were determined - they replaced the last Avenger with a Talbot Horizon. And two more after that. Then came the Peugeots. My parents don't have a great history with cars....

My parents used to have a Hillman Avenger. And a Chrysler Avenger. And the Talbot one that replaced it. Gluttons for punishment they were.

45 days - Is David Walliams going to swim there and pick them up for you?

Thats a bit out of order Ford's are quite reliable.

Nope. Not at all. You NEED a casing on it; both of my GoPros have been hit before; and both would have broken if not for the casing. But besides the casing, Sure, you can mount your camera with no cost at all. Ill attach a pic with the best way to do so. Basically, take one of the sticky pad that came with it and put it in the NVG mount on the FAST helmet. Then you can just slide on the attachment.

While I'm not 100% sure on vandalism,since BPA's not an airsoft exclusive site,we do have a problem with people dumping random stuff. Broken down/Written off cars,random crap. One time someone dumped a drum set and some perfectly fine couches for us to use which is nice.

Qlimax, looks the nuts. I must say, that flash hider just looks nicely naughty More of mine, Now have a Tripod and working on getting the original box mag into the ammo tin and running a long tube up.

My Polarstar is finally finished. The T1 isn't staying on i'm waiting for a 556.

Yep, you're completely fine doing that. Just make sure they know that you've painted it as ex-2-tone stuff generally has less value to people given the finish being not as good as one that wasn't initially a bright colour. Legally though there's no issue at all as you turned those into RIFs (by spraying them) when you had a valid defence.

Just back from work and found most of my first load-out had arrived so had to put it together and through it on for some half ass pics! (Was too lazy too reach for a hoodie that I would use) And cheers to all for the advice for the load-out too!

keep us posted......i'll have to go through this later in the year! haha

Best briefing i've seen is from the chap Tony that runs RIFT airsoft. He's very enthusiastic and gets through all the key points in such a way that makes the amount of time it takes seem shorter than it really is. A lot of marshals really need to have a cheat sheet to hand as i've seen rules missed at sites i've been to before that don't have them.

^^The way to stop that is to make the regen far enough away that it takes a fair while to get back. I think briefings could be paired down and be at least as effective, if not more so, if the marshals were more serious about it - there's no need for any light heartedness or humour - it's for safety and the rules which allow the games to be fun: if people can't be serious for 5 mins listening to it, they should fuck off. IMO marshals should shush people who talk during briefings... with extreme prejudice. But many people do have a short attention span. Keeping anything specific to a particular game or zone out of the main safety/rules brief and only bringing it up before a game where it will become relevant is probably the best way to go - you'd probably have to repeat it anyway just to be sure that everyone had either remembered or actually listened. Something I've only seen sporadically, but which could be a good idea to do systematically, is for marshals to mention in the mini brief just before a game starts common instances of rule breaking/bending, poor sportsmanship, or whatever bad behaviour which have occurred there before. For eg "This is a rolling defence game. There are limited opportunities to take effective cover and it is supposed to be like that - we want you to shoot and move - avoid being hit by displacing. We've had defenders using dead men as cover before. Don't do that. It just makes the game needlessly difficult for the attackers and, when we turn it around, you wouldn't like it if they did it to you."

Only ever seen verbal presentations with everyone gathered around. Usually they'll demo acceptable behaviour for knife kills and throw a grenade to demo kill radius etc, demo unacceptable things such as blind firing, power playing etc. Occasionally I've seen briefings kept to a bare minimum at sites when only a few regulars have turned up and they know everyone is au fait with things.

I get what your saying Ed but a lot of reports suggest a 30 min briefing, not sure how accurate or exaggerated that is but that's a hell of a long time

never had a bad one. I tend to ask marshals to go thru grenades (as beginners often think them as 'flashbang' - which is understandable). best airsoft brief I've heard was at Epsom bunker, that man got humour!