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Since we're well off topic now, I heard a player-marshal grumbling after a game that he'd "hit someone, and the cheeky cnut had put his hand up, then ducked back into cover." I kindly let him know that the cheeky cnut was in fact waving cheerily at him because his BBs were dropping about 3m short. Perhaps ill advised, but he was already convinced that he was hitting me and would have been salty anyway, so I might as well have fun with it.

And that's the problem 99% of non hit taking is the shooter not hitting the target. So the problem is the player with super duper gun that can shoot laser straight and hit a 2 inch target at 100m can't judge distance for shit. So when they get frustrated at the non hit taker and move position to actually be in range and then then light up the player "who didn't take their hits" they become the arse hole ruining people's days. As Marshall I pull up far more people for shouting take your hit than actual non hit taking.

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+1 to him being honest to begin with, then realising that he's got your money and the RIF, and that he might end up with both if he just does nothing. Well, you did the right thing, although I agree that I wouldn't have left it that long. It's harsh on sellers and senders at the moment, but ultimately you just have to mash that "Refund, now" button, and the sooner you do it, the sooner you're back where you started. And 1000% on never, ever cancelling a refund claim.

Don't EVER stop the claim, not unless you have the goods or money in your hands.

I'm fairly new to airsoft having started in Sept. One of the things that got my attention was rate of fire, in that it excited me. I wanted to buya fast firing rif. I recently bought a chrono Purely to see the rps of mine and my sons ( box std) arp556. His was 15rps and mine is 13rps. This surprised me as I thought it was much higher. Given the amount of bb I can get through in a day I don't want anything faster and really can't see why more than 20 rps would be needed? Infact my preferred rate is now 3 round burst as its plenty. Full auto is only for non callers now. I've no problem with those that want to go faster or what propels them. Only real problem I've come across is the drum mag users. Granted I use high caps at 350 rounds but they are nothing compared to what seems minutes on end from the drummers, from behind their cover ! Really slows or stops the game some days. I've also noticed bar post teen walk ons, it's seems the drummers are the ones who don't call hits more often? I sniped one drummer with 3 body shots Sunday from about 40 - 30m as he did a terminator walk across open ground. On the 3rd hit he turned and sprayed me. I just stuck 2 fingers up at him but also then got head shot by a fellow sniper lol so I called hit and off i went.

Pussys, dicks and arseholes. Airsoft has always been this way, I find I just take on the challenge of out smarting them and making the way they play ineffective for them. I do completely get that dick players don’t do any good for potential newbs. However of all airsoft gripes dishonesty and non hit taking are the game day killers for me.

As a HPA sniper (best of both worlds!), I'll add spring snipers to that list. Plenty of spring snipers who go for headshots, try to inflict pain because it's "funny" and ignore their MED. Not all HPA users are dicks, just like not all dicks are HPA users.

Ammo limits are the way, imho, on account of the fact you can literally use any type of RIF under the sun with any mechanism for propulsion but if you run out of beebs half way through the game and aren't allowed to re-stock you're going to watch your weight of trigger finger. Is this easily enforceable? Absolutely not, same as any other methods suggested, there's plenty of arguments against it. There's no way you're going to have marshalls checking every pouch and pocket for sneaky hidden mags and bags of bbs. However it's a rule I'd think most people would follow and a lot of the time it wouldn't be too hard to spot offenders. Also it just generally adds to the quality of the gameplay in general in all key respects I find, but I have no delusions that that is subjective and some won't agree with me. Just an idea I've held for a long time and like to put out there now and again.

Honest opinion.... stupidity on both of you's side. Why has your common sense not kicked in that buying from abroad, especially privately wouldn't be an absolute nightmare? Paperwork as it's an imitation firearm for a start and then probably that YOU have a valid defence for receiving it. He does seem to have messed you about a bit and has gone quite scatty with it but just claim the money back and learn from this.

Since you received notification of documents needed I think he just got caught out by the Brexit fiasco. He then got a bit stupid with the delays. You did the right thing by waiting a good amount of time (many would say too long) I would certainly avoid buying or selling second hand abroad

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HPA user here... personally I love to use semi and only use Full auto when someone deserves it (Not hit taking) - I can adjust the ROF on mine to Wanker level...but why? All your doing as advertising that you a cunt and there is no need. One lad on our site who plays every now and again sets his up to fire at a billion rps...and everyone thinks he's a knob. Marshalls informed and aware and chrono'd to right limits...but still a wanker for running something that fast and overshooting peeps as well. (He's young and I think trying to show off to his mates with his setup all the time) I always wary of peeps on the site, even more so for rentals & new players..we need more peeps coming into Airsoft, not driving them away by shooting the crap out of them with silly ROF setups. **Btw using HPA as an example...seen plenty of peeps with DSG builds and high ROF builds being dicks as well... But it's airsoft..and people are people.... Merry Xmas everyone.

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i just didn't want the gun falling on the ground nah i was selling the gun as a package, although didn't get much traction so ended up splitting, iirc i sold the sling with the tri-rail then sold the gun sans-sling. yeah the tri-rails for the f2000's were difficult to get a hold of, one day my local managed to find a bunch of them and i instantly bought one. i know the real gun had a version of the handguard with a short section of rail protruding from it, but personally i preferred the whole-hog tri-rail as it's juust long enough to fit a 203 onto..... on the g&g version the handguard was hollow plastic (made of 2 halves similar to the main body of the gun), probably would be strong enough to cut a hole and mount a rail into it if you printed a block that would sit tight on the inside of the shell to mount to.

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I am kinda of both minds. On the one hand, I do not build any of my guns to be too high ROF, whether HPA or AEG. With the advent of Titans and ROF limiters on AEGs all my Titan builds are locked at 20RPS. HPA is even easier to tune - they get the same 20 for the most part. I also have several guns that, when built, just shoot slower. My QJB-95 sits around 15RPS, for instance. I only have 3-4 guns above that rate - my M134, M132, my KA 9mm SBR (shoots 26RPS through no fault of its own, just happened when I switched to 11.1s), and im sure theres a gun or two in there that is above 20 as well. And to top that most of the time I have them on burst or fire 3-5 round bursts on auto, if its not a semi-only game. I personally do not like accuracy through volume, whether indoors or out. What I dont like, however, is people wanting to ban HPA simply because it can be used to easily cheat. I can just as easily cheat any chrono with one of my TItan AEGs as I can with HPA - even easier in fact. You can tournie-lock my HPA reg, but you cant stop me from popping my QC gearbox open and changing springs, and its just as easy to attach my Titan programming card to my gun as it is to change FCU settings on HPA - easier in fact if it isnt a FCU with a screen. If sites would learn to lock regulators and pay attention to their players its not a hard thing to catch those trying to cheat (also I am all for reasonable ROF limits at fields), instead of just banning anything HPA.

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High ROF is not the issue ( i don't see the point you can still suppress with low ROF and save ammo) but the player them selves as only one person is having fun when some one gets lit up with 60rd and the person having fun is an arsehole. site I play at doesn't have rof restrictions, but if you're spamming people words will be had.

I've got my Double Eagle M906C as my primary. I've got my TM AK-47S as my alternative. I've got my Classic Army M15A3 (M16 A2) as a ... something or other (It's not quite shooting straight, I'll raise another thread about that) But damnit, three guns isn't enough to stop me lusting after something else! Top of my current wish-list is the old Tactical Tuna itself, the F2000... £175 here https://www.socomtactical.net/cybergun-fn-f2000-aeg-black/ Several reasons for this gun as my front-runner My fave gun in Battlefield 4. I'd need a stubby front grip and red dot sight to complete the look Cheap(ish) High-ish rate of fire (18rps) Can take my metal high-cap STANAG mags. I've got 5 already... keeps the cost down Next up is some variety of L85 £185 here https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/army-armament-r85a1-l85-sa80-aeg-replica-in-black.html (Allegedly this is basically the same as the much more expensive G&G version, and they're both likely to break - so might as well have the cheap one!) I got mildly obsessed with this gun back when I was 10, and in my gun books it was still the SA80 in 4.85mm. I really wish there was a version of that, as it looks really cool... Also takes my STANAGs. Downside is these things weigh too much. But hey-ho. And lastly (for the moment) some sort of Steyr AUG. Preferably a shortened version Yowzers, £130! https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/army-armament-r904-steyr-aug-cqb-version-in-olive-drab.html I'd rather have a rail than the integrated optic though, so more likely... £115(!) https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/army-armament-r901-steyr-aug-bb-gun-in-black.html or if I'm feeling flush and can blow £280 + extra for mags, then good ol' TM High Cycle... https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/tokyo-marui-high-cycle-steyr-aug-airsoft-gun-aeg-black So yeah, I'm a bit of a fan of bullpups, and actually all 3 of these are amongst my most-used in Battlefield 4 so I have a strong affinity with them from that. But are they too sh*t to actually contemplate buying? Are there gotchas I should consider that should stop me from making an impulse purchase of a cheap one (of any make) from the Classifieds? (I was actually expecting to pay £170+ for any of these, so the cheap AA ones were a big surprise - feel free to suggest other manufacturers!)

@TheNotoriousLoki glad to hear you enjoyed it. Forgetting your gloves is a lesson I'm sure many of us have learnt the hard way, I know I have. Good call on not buying more gear for the moment, it's very easy to end up buying loads of stuff that ends up sitting in a cupboard gathering dust.

I'm playing a night game tomorrow, 6 pm to 10 pm and it will be around 5 or so degrees centigrade, so I'll take my own chrono with me and do a before and after, so let's see what it says.

How many RPS is that rifle sir?

Been playing since this summer and I'm pretty happy with my loadout so far. Although I might add a battle belt in the future, so I can carry some extra mags on it ?

I suppose you'd have to apply to be a support gunner so you'd take your gun up to the desk or maybe the ammo would get issued and roles assigned at the chrono and they'd decide if you qualify. This is all getting very milsim esque for a regular skirmish day though

I've done that but then shot back with my r hopped AEG shooting heavier ammo and nailed them. They weren't happy... I like the limited ammo idea. Maybe if you could issue a set amount of ammo when you sign in and that's your lot for the day. Obviously doesn't stop people sneaking their own ammo in but I think if everyone is being conservative then the one person spraying everything would probably stand out. Then you could also provide more ammo for support gunners so that you can then control the number of support gunners on each team.

Harsh but true. Importing anything is a minefield.

In general I think that high rate of fire is pointless and "he burned my patch" ing someone should be a should result in a site ban and other sites being informed. High rate of fire aren't inherently bad things. However I would say that if someone is building as super high rps dsg whatever "Just for the trigger response" it should be locked to semi. As someone else said a 25-20rps max limit could become a thing at more sites. It depends how many people abuse it. I could certainly see milsims implementing it. Also speaking as someone who runs a variety of lmgs and support weapons I tend to leave the rof stock, run a 7.4 lion battery and happily chug away an entire game without reloading. High rof is not necessary for suppressive fire.

I can't tell you specifically about the Specna, but they have a good rep too. There's a good video for the DE FCS, you should be able to find it easily in YT. I'm not sure how the Aster compares. I had a long discussion about the pros and cons of running 11.1v on a UK spec gun (i.e relatively low spring compression, increasing rate of fire and potentially increasing the possibility of breaking the thing) Well to cut a long story short my expensive Titan 7.4v Li-Ion is now my backup battery and I'm running a couple of small 11.1v Li-Pos through the day... so yeah 11.1 works. Other people have reported no issues longer term Comparison video... (Apologies for the big crappy watermark, it's my first go with video editing so haven't 'invested' in it yet) I've just got a chrono yesterday, so I'll add the actual rates of fire into the description today. Yesterday I got 12rps with the 7.4v and 15 (iirc) off the 11.1v, but that battery was nearly out of juice, hence a re-test today. edit: Chrono on the fully charged Turnigy 11.1v is 16.4 rounds per sec which I'm more than happy with. In fact I chew through ammo noticeably faster (I tend to do the suppressive fire thang a lot when I'm not sneaking) so the 7.4v is still perfectly viable. (Added the rates of fire to the video now) The Negative Airsoft chap says one of the good things about Specna is they are not set to run too fast on 11.1, so not overstressing components. I suspect the DE is similar.

So I could just run one of these cheap things around the stock and through the slots, attach the single point to the d-ring and I'm golden...? Cool. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tactical-Universal-D-Ring-Sling-point-Adapter-rifle-buttstock-Loop-Strap-Airsoft-/353409589012?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Is the 1.25" width of that strap the standard size that will fit through the slots ok?

The “slots” at the rear of the stock are for attaching a sling to

Double Eagle used to make rubbish springers that could be had for pocket money prices, that's where their bad reputation comes from. Their current guns' reputation is good ? The technology is also excellent, the fire control system with binary fire and burst mode are so easy to program. They're not perfect... mine doesn't seem to like the cold at all, so after 4 skirmishes I'm preparing to do some work on it with a new spring, hop rubber and nub, and a bit of general cleaning and lubing. But I don't think anyone has had theirs actually break on them, which is pretty damned good for our little toy gnus ?

As said if you're a dick you're a dick.We played yesterday and there is always a few regular troublesome younger "coders" running HPA's .I say troublesome because they are always getting tagged for non-hit taking, etc,I mean this regularly.It also happens that they are friends of some of the marshalls,so much so that yesterday I heard one of them in question ask the marshall if there was a ROF limit,the coversation continued until the marshall went into the players backpack and made an adjustment for him (you can enlighten me) and the ensuing ROF was crazy.It doesn't personaly bother me so much but you can hear newbies asking WTF!!I think a cap will happen when someone gets tired of being overshot by these types or until someone gets hurt.I know you can hose anyone with any gun but higher ROF makes it easier.

I have already spent a bit of money but that is buying my gear (helmet, gloves, face protection & tactical vest). My fiancé has bought me a two tone RIF which I will use for a while then maybe purchase a pistol once I have my UKARA. looking to book my next game on 28th but all depends if Boris does another lock down or not.

I'm based in Harlow, Dragons Lair and Airsoft Plantation / Tower will be my regular skirmish sites. Thanks for the welcome everyone.

tbh, i don't think even that works out for a sufficiently determined arse.

vvv That. And different chemistries means you can't really compare like for like. Notionally an 8.4V NiMH should spin a no-load motor a little faster than a 7.4V LiPo, but those aren't the voltages that you'll actually see. Most chargers will take a lipo up to a reliable 3.7V per cell i.e. 8.4V for a 2-cell rather than 7.4V. A NiMH "8.4V" pack is 7 x 1.2V cells in series but chargers don't know that. All they can do is to stuff charge in until the battery resistance spikes / the charging current drops, which might be at any point depending on the worst cell in the pack. So much for voltage. The lithium cell will also be able to deliver more power, and will deliver it more consistently as it discharges, which will let your motor pull the spring as fast as it's able to. They both work, I'm not saying that you must get lithium based cells, but I prefer them.

Yeah, best with black. A better base to work with IMO. To my eyes tan looks bogging on anything apart from an M4 or a 1911.

This is just one of the faces of BREXIT that UK citizens will see more of... People if you ask them about BREXIT, they will not understand the real issue of why the UK pulled out the EU... In very simple terms, the Panama papers exposes a massive TAX loophole fraud. The EU takes action to plug a tax loophole. Tories bottle goes when they realise that they will have to declare every penny that they have in tax havens. BREXIT is pushed, the muppets lap it all up in belief of sovereignty rule and all that clap trap that they were shilled with... when we already had it as people do not understand how membership of the EU worked... Next thing, people do not notice pack resizing as a hidden price rise coupled with price rises months later, a double whammy. Next thing, roads are not being repaired because all that lovely EU money ringfenced for infrastructure that your local council got to pay for road maintenance ceases, farmers subsidies cease, how they thought they would hang on to those when leaving astounds me... there was a lot more benefit to the UK than leaving for sure, the issue really was that the tory governments couldn't redirect that money, so they put up taxes, introduce new taxes and things to siphon off that lovely EU cash in to where... TAX HAVENS. The panama papers exposed that and the tories panicked, Cameron was under much scrutiny for the pigs head incident, so needed a diversion... BREXIT was also perfect for that purpose... killing TOW bird with one stone, so to speak. And here we are now, facing minimum orders and price hikes in the same goods that were 25% cheaper the week before. So there you have it... and the thing to remember, thsi is just the tip of the old berg and the HMS Britannia is the latest version of the titanic that Johnson is grounding on a sandbar somewhere in the doldrums. Enjoy your BREXIT fruits my friends, your BREXIT fruit pie is next...

The cold does all sorts of things, probably a mixture of the reasons you list above. I know my AEGs drop in performance when it's chilly.

Fixed those for ya ?

That's pretty normal with a gas gun - as the gas expands it cools the gun and magazine rapidly, which has a negative effect on power. You really only want to use the gun on semi, or very short bursts (as you would a real firearm).

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I bought two 4 series AKs last week. They will remain virgins until I've ascertained that they are basically sound. Then ML and barrel and that's about it. Even their 3 series are pretty damn good these days.

Getting ready for tomorrow’s game so I thought I’d share a quick snap of the current state of my KC02’s Edit: Before why two of the same gun? Top one is a 1.8j semi auto GBBR build and the bottom one has the blowback disabled for a single action 2.3j build.

Use the standard bolt or a quality lightweight one if you want snappier cycle, no rollers, no angry gun crap. The MWS doesn’t want for much, just fine tuning, trigger box work and cleanliness.

I have the ESS ones. I also sweat like a glassblowers arse. One cold days, after I've been running about and then stop still for a bit I get a bit of fogging in the top of the bridge area but it clears pretty quickly once you start moving again. The only issue I have with mine is that the foam gasket on the inside that goes up against your face disintegrated and relacing it is nigh on impossible. Another one to consider is the Revision Desert Locust Fan Goggles https://www.tactical-kit.co.uk/revision-desert-locust-fan-goggle-essential-kit-15381-p.asp