shortman

Ill shout ya next time we head there.

If you want to play a bunker you should try the ucap bunker. Is nuts down there! Is also full auto every where and 350fps limit. Is extreeme cqb in damn near pitch black

No idea what half of that was advertising but iv just bought all of them! Who says sales marketing doesnt work eh?

I too am playing with okto in december and also playing at longmoor on saturday which is a steping stone style event. With some milsim rules. I do agree we should all play the game we each like to play. But hey lets be honest, we have had 4 pages of banter/disscusion/argument. Has made for a good read and disscusion if nothing else

Im not saying it is wrong or right, just that i think its the more overly serious approch that puts some off trying milsims. Almost like thier needs to be an inbetween the two levels of play for the less seriouse milsimmer whanting a more serious skirmish.

I agree with deebo, i think its seems to be the two differences more between the have a laugh skirmish and they take it too seriouse milsimmer. I just want middle ground, i want the organised feel of milsim but to still be smiling and having fun. If i wanted to be so hardcore i felt like i was in the army or to the point where i feel like im on an sas training ground id go join the forces.

Im off to my first milsim event in december (okto 8's event). I love skirmish games but sometimes wish people worked a bit more like a team than just aload of people out for themselves. Variaty is the spice of life and as much as i enjoy and have a laugh just running round like a gun ho crazy mofo the idea of working as a team to attack/deffend or obatain and objective seems fun too. Doesnt mean because you want a bit more team based eviroment that i need to by an saab and bevome an accountant whith a high horse.

Yea there green gas im not a fan of but the low temp stuff was good when playing in the cold bunkers of ucap. I have to agree though it would apear nuprol products genrally arnt up to scratch really.

Yea the nuprol 3.0 is 17.99 a can. But works between 3-10° which is pretty efficiant. Thing is if you run a gas gun they are genrally more expensive to run/maintain. If you want to run a gas gun in the winter then is defo going to be more expenisve to make work well. Sooooo buy expesive low temp gas or buy an aeg lol love my aeg wouldnt swap it for any gbbr on the market + all the tea in china! My gas pistol i love and in the cold works fine as the nuprol 3.0 gas last bloody for ever in pistol mags

Said it before will say it agian. Use nuprol low temp green gas in the cold. Works great! From anything above 5-7° and if its colder than that then personaly id rather be at home in the warm.

As Duck says. Have a good read of the guides. The forum has some excellent guides and a are defo worth a read.

Just to add deebo needs mid caps, ideally 120's give or take.

Im not married yet but she keeps hinting! Is hard enough getting a pass now let alone once she legaly owns my arse!

<p>Love it. Brightened my day thats for sure!</p>

Me and my brother should be in on this now too. Just waiting on the final confirmation will be our first milsim too.

The v12's do have a two stage lens position dont forget, i run mine on the locked out possitiom not the locked in, and also the bunker is a bitch for fogging jedi. You could have no eye pro down there and still fog its so damn cold

Is an epic site tbh. Only thing that was a minor downer is the 330fps limit that ment i couldnt use my aeg. Most sites are 350fps so font want to spend out on a downgrade just for mall. Very playable site on pistols though.

I hear good things about them and thier shop too.

Is exactly what id do too.

You sound like a fair and honest guy. He sounds nieve and like he is being taken for a long and expensive walk by a shop who saw him coming. 7weeks is well beyond refund timescales imo. You have already offered more help than most would.

Weighed my m4 and minus mag and battries its 3.2kg

Cool, ill keep an eye out for an update bud

Have you used the sniper much? Whats your overall verdict? Seems a fairly cheap way to have a little dabble as a sniper before buying an all out sniper supreme gun.

Some people have some damn heavy guns!

Just genrally wondered how heavy peoples primary is? Fited an all metal body acog to my gun the other day and though its actually quite heavy. Iv not weighed it yet but i will tomorrow when its to hand. so.... Make of gun: brand/type etc Add on's: sights silencers etc (only weight feecting mods please) Weight kg: this inc mag but no battries in gun or lights etc, no bb's and no c02 canisters etc. Make: PTS rm4 (cqb m4) Add on's: metal acog, tm tracer, tourch and mount etc Weight kg: tbc