Supporters Del Monty Posted July 19, 2014 Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 Anyone see this in Airsoft Action magazine ?Comment on page stating "bang rule working"Looks like blind firing to me ? Also the guy has his finger on the trigger with the barrel shoved up to the guys face. The guy should be banned .. to me its clear Blind Firing .. you wouldn't have your finger on the trigger for a 'bang kill' .. its bad discipline and dangerous play. Any thoughts on this .. cavninja 1
Dan88 Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 If he shot me like that he'd be getting my barrel down his throat! What an idiot!! cavninja 1
BrightCandle Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 Yeah I thought the exact same thing when I saw that in the magazine. Del Monty 1
Supporters Rock-climby-Dave Posted July 19, 2014 Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 OK, so, let's pretend that it's on safe and the guy ISN'T about to definately blind fire: He cannot be shot back. How is that even fair? Part of the reason for no blind fire is it simply isn't a very fun way of playing, where is the excitement in a firefight that you can't be shot in? This is not 'The band rule working' it's thebang rule demonstrating why it is just straight up bad play. I whole heartedly suggest to all players and site owners to discuss this with each other: The surrender rule (common at F&O and many other sites) If you see a guy and don't want to shoot - shout 'surrender/giveup/whatever you think works' The onus is then on the other player to make the decision of either 'yes, hit' or 'no, I'm now going to turn around and try to shoot you before you get me' if the person being surrendered pauses for a second, put a round into their chest/back and carry on, player takes the hit as normal. Much better and prevents someone sneaking up on 6 guys looking the wrong way and "banging a bunch of dudes from behind" where realistically, they could have maybe shot 3/4 before getting killed themselves. Airsoft_Mr B, Del Monty, cavninja and 1 other 4
Moose87 Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 This flat out is not bang rule as you have to actually be able to see what you gun is pointing at. Eg looking down the sight in an aimed shot.
straffham Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 Agreed. If that was actual game play I wouldn't want to play there. cavninja 1
AirsoftTed Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 Is the magazines comment not sarcastic hence the ellipses? DEF and Airsoft-Ed 2
Supporters Popular Post Airsoft-Ed Posted July 19, 2014 Supporters Popular Post Posted July 19, 2014 Why do people get their titties in such a twist over totally mindless bollocks? Is everyone a hard right wing activist that does airsoft or something? The second someone steps out of line, BAN THEM! NAME AND SHAME! MAKE SURE THEY NEVER PLAY THE GAME AGAIN! Jesus wept. Anyone would think they'd brought a baby to a game and used them as a freakin' grenade or something people blow things out of proportion so much. Who cares? Can't believe a magazine would ever even post that photo. We've all seen people blind fire, is it really a news worthy occurrence?I've been shot point blank at the muzzle before when the person wasn't blind firing, doesn't make it cause any more or less damage. If you go and play without accepting the possibility that something like that might happen, then you need to reevaluate your motives for playing tbh. It's a non-issue imo. Also, of course you'd have your finger on the trigger for a bang kill... two_zero, murph, Fumps and 7 others 10
Supporters Del Monty Posted July 19, 2014 Author Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 Sorry I have to completely disagree with what you wrote there .. b1n0gHo5t and Dan88 2
Dan88 Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 Blind firing and blind firing like in the picture is completely different,
Supporters Popular Post Del Monty Posted July 19, 2014 Author Supporters Popular Post Posted July 19, 2014 On the total assumption that this photo is not staged .... The gentleman on the left clearly knows there is someone the other side of the barrier .. otherwise he would not be pointing his weapon over the barrier in the first place .. he has no clear line of sight to his target either down his weapon sights nor through the barrier .. his finger is on the trigger indicating he is having to engage someone .. The gentleman on the right very easily looks like someone who is trying to save himself from being shot point blank in the face ... his arm is raised in such a way to suggest this ... This is what myself and many suspect to be blind firing .. not just on these forums but on the facebook page it was originally posted on ... the general view and feeling is this photo is showing a dangerous method of game play and one that frequently harms the sport due to the actions of a few silly people .. granted very small numbers but still something that brings negativity to the game. Sorry to those who think/feel differently .. but having been to hospital twice due to blind firing .. this is something I feel very strongly about. straffham, The Leprechaun!, Airsoft_Mr B and 2 others 5
Supporters Del Monty Posted July 19, 2014 Author Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 Hospital twice? Pray tell .... First time to have a bb removed from my ear after I was blind fired at next to point blank range .. and the second time to get stitched up after I was hit in the face .. not massive emergencies granted .. but enough to ruin my days and cause an argument with a marshal.
two_zero Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 told a rental or two on my team not to blindfire last game. not in a rude way or anything, just asked them not to and they stopped when I told them.but yea I hate it when experienced players use such "tactics" and basically do anything for a win, rules are for lesser players.in other words.. mistakes happen, we're human, but people who adapt blind firing as a tactic, not cool! dont think my post had a lot to do with the original post but hey ho! First time to have a bb removed from my ear after I was blind fired at next to point blank range .. and the second time to get stitched up after I was hit in the face .. not massive emergencies granted .. but enough to ruin my days and cause an argument with a marshal. face protection anyone?^^not saying the blind firing was ok!
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted July 19, 2014 Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 When I went to Free Fire Zone I was amazed that they actually allow blind fire. They make a note of it in the briefing. Yet they don't let you set off pyro in case it's too loud... God forbid someone hurt their ears... Airsoft_Mr B 1
Supporters Del Monty Posted July 19, 2014 Author Supporters Posted July 19, 2014 told a rental or two on my team not to blindfire last game. not in a rude way or anything, just asked them not to and they stopped when I told them. but yea I hate it when experienced players use such "tactics" and basically do anything for a win, rules are for lesser players. in other words.. mistakes happen, we're human, but people who adapt blind firing as a tactic, not cool! dont think my post had a lot to do with the original post but hey ho! face protection anyone?^^ not saying the blind firing was ok! I had eye protection obviously lol I have to have prescription lenses for my eyesight .. so for a full face mask I have to wear my normal glasses under them to see which induces unlimited sweating and fogging lol
Russe11 Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 It's also a bad move because all the guy on the right needs to do is grab the barrel, point it away from himself and go for the easy knife kill. Sitting Duck and straffham 2
hairbag73 Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Now that just shit. If he has to play like that to get one kill! If some twat try's that on me ( eye 4 a eye) they'd get g18 to the face see how they feel after full auto point blank. ? ?
Supporters Popular Post jcheeseright Posted July 20, 2014 Supporters Popular Post Posted July 20, 2014 Now that just sh*t. If he has to play like that to get one kill! If some tw*t try's that on me ( eye 4 a eye) they'd get g18 to the face see how they feel after full auto point blank. ? ? TacMaster, Bottledtorment, Del Monty and 7 others 10
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted July 20, 2014 Supporters Posted July 20, 2014 Y'know the extreme points of view I mentioned in my first comment? Yeah, well that lol.
Black Death Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 People who defend or promote blind firing is just beyond me! It's probably the most dangerous thing that can happen at a skirmish. I tend to find most of the people who do this are scaredy cats... This guy is so shit scared of being shot he either turns his face away as he shoots (like when girls fight lol) or he sticks his gun round the corner worrying a flurry of bbs will come his way if he sticks his body out. Typically I don't think these guys do it on purpose as such but fear takes over. The more scared they get (of an aggressive pro active team) the more it will happen. I've seen many experienced players do this. I can guarantee you if we played with water pistols or nerf guns less of this would happen a lot less if at all Any time I catch a guy blind firing on me I just grab the gun by the barrel and snatch it of him so he's defenseless. Than whilst I'm holding his gun I explain that you can accidently remove someone's mask/glasses/goggles with the flash hider/barrel without knowing and because you can't see them you could pepper them in they're naked eye balls!!! Seems to work very well. I reckon if a slow mo demonstration of this was put in the safety brief more people would understand how serious it is and not see it as overly safety conscious
geoffreym Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 This guy is so sh*t scared of being shot he either turns his face away as he shoots (like when girls fight lol) You have obviously never met any of my ex-girlfriends. Fortunately I have never suffered from blind-firing in airsoft, but I almost did with simunition in yank land (guy was thrown out after doing it a second time), it was one of the more worrying points in my life, and if I hadn't twisted the pistol off of him I could've been badly hurt. I agree with ed that these things tend to be blown out of proportion, but it is one of the few situations in airsoft where someone could be badly hurt, so should be stamped on hard, by the site, not by the entire community.
CaptainSwoop Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I don't see the fuss. I am with Airsoft-Ed on this. Calm down folks. Fumps 1
Happy Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I'm with the "Blind firing is bloody stupid" crowd. It's potentially very dangerous and shouldn't be implemented in airsoft due to that risk (thankfully most sites don't allow it). I don't go nuts when I see it happen, but I do make a point of informing a marshal.
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