clumpyedge Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 looking for info.. Not really looking for GBB which has led me to look at the Umerex MP7 as a cheap alternative... anyone run one? thoughts on the gun and performance would be greatly appreciated.
Supporters Monty Posted September 15, 2014 Supporters Posted September 15, 2014 It's the Well R4 but with trademarks, and the Well R4 (from experience) isn't very good. I'd save up for the Marui version, miles better.
Airsoft_Mr B Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 The WELL R4 is only like £40, trademarked £110! Definitely save up for TM. Not sure about their AEG version but the GBB is about £320 IIRC.
clumpyedge Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks guys i wasnt sure what umarex was as a brand, now im enlightened i shall save my pennies for the TM and can add it to my already growing TM collection
Happy Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 You could throw the BBs further than they'll shoot. Around 240 fps (top end) so fine for CQB style sites but anything else you'll have to forgive your enemies for not noticing they've been shot by one. Like others have said, the TM is better but I personally wouldn't buy one as you could buy a decent mp5 for that price and get more bang for your buck
Chock Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Umarex is a legitimate arms manufacturer based in Germany with a US subsidiary, in fact they are probably more legitimate than most in that they own the Walther Arms company, and you can't get more legit than the company which make's James Bond's weapon of choice lol. They also own the Rockwood Specialities Group, which is a chemical company that amongst other things produces stuff to create specialist coatings for weapons. So they certainly do make some quality real weapons and also make some very good air rifles and pistols too, even some marketed under the Walther name, with the kind of quality one might expect with that logo on the side. I have one of their Walther CP88 pistols (the long slide variant with the muzzle compensator), and it is indeed a very good weapon with a beautiful anodised metal finish which is really second to none (evidently some RSG input there). However, the Umarex brand stretches far and wide and is often encountered when marketing other airsoft brands you've heard either nothing, or little about, such as Combat Zone, Tactical Force, Well etc. Some of the products under these names are okay but most are not that great, because if they were, they'd be happily using more well known logos on them, considering that Umarex make civilian versions of M4s etc. Where the Well brand is concerned, their stuff is a mixed bag, some of it is good, some bad, but in general it is 'budget' gear, which means parts/spare are not always easy to come by/swap and one wouldn't expect most Well weapons to last forever. You get what you pay for of course, although having said that, there are some Well weapons out there which are surprisingly good in spite of the low price, for example, the Well D69 is not a bad WW2-style M1 carbine which can fire semi and fully automatic and is far better than you've any right to expect for an AEG costing sixty quid.
clumpyedge Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks for the info, Im still not up to scratch with who makes what and who is rebranded as who...
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