Creature_face Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Hi I'm looking to buy a new m4a1. But I was looking to find a GBB M4A1 around a £200 price mark. Any recommendations?
Supporters Monty Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 You won't find a good GBB M4A1 for £200, the G&G GBB M4's are within your budget, but they're not very good. Increase your budget and get yourself a WE M4 Open bolt, as there is a plethora of upgrade parts for them. http://www.badgertac2.co.uk/#!product/prd1/1656002445/we-m4a1-ras-gbb
Creature_face Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 How would I decrease the fps? Because my UK sites are mainly 350fps
MZKaleem Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I think there's a part called an NPAS which can help lower FPS? I'm not absolutely sure on that one though.
TheGrover Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 You can either use an npas bolt (not an ideal solution as i think that the setting gets put off over time, like a bad hop up), a 1j bolt, which lets less gas down the barrel, or you can install a shorter or a wider barrel
Root Admin proffrink Posted March 31, 2015 Root Admin Posted March 31, 2015 Depends on the NPAS and how much you're willing to spend. The newer RA-Tech ones are solid, but other brands aren't always so much. Also they're a great deal of money. Not for the faint hearted.
Supporters Lozart Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 Depends on the NPAS and how much you're willing to spend. The newer RA-Tech ones are solid, but other brands aren't always so much. Also they're a great deal of money. Not for the faint hearted. They're only £70. I guess it depends on what you call a "great deal of money" but if you're buying a GBB rifle then an NPAS is a drop in the ocean... Monty 1
Root Admin proffrink Posted March 31, 2015 Root Admin Posted March 31, 2015 Context: I was looking to find a GBB M4A1 around a £200 price mark.
Supporters Lozart Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 Likewise: You won't find a good GBB M4A1 for £200 Mack 1
Root Admin proffrink Posted March 31, 2015 Root Admin Posted March 31, 2015 Eh? So my point all along - we're in agreement.
Supporters Lozart Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 Eh? So my point all along - we're in agreement. Errrmmm...if you say so. I thought you were saying that an NPAS was expensive so I pointed out that going GBB is expensive anyway. If that was your point then yes, yes we do agree (kaloo! kalay! What excellent fortune). Of course if that's not what you were trying to say then you're wrong. Totally wrong. *skips off with fingers in ears singing "LA LA LAAA I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOOOOUUUUUU"* Happy 1
Root Admin proffrink Posted March 31, 2015 Root Admin Posted March 31, 2015 Oh I know all too well how much a GBBR costs to upgrade, so yeh. Lozart 1
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 An NPAS costs about £15... Airsoft_Mr B 1
Supporters Lozart Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 An NPAS costs about £15... The kits that come with the nozzle are about £70 though http://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/ra-tech-upgrade-parts/ra-tech-we-rifle-upgrades/we-m4-series-416-and-pdw-upgrades/ra-tech-we-m4-aluminium-nozzle-with-npas.html But yes, the NPAS on it's own is much cheaper. Which kind of reinforces my point. Kinda.
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted March 31, 2015 Supporters Posted March 31, 2015 Screw the metal nozzles they're a total waste of money. Come with their own set of issues that require you to upgrade other parts.Plastic nozzles are ten a penny and are perfectly fine as well as not requiring any modification to fit or function properly. Lozart 1
Creature_face Posted April 1, 2015 Author Posted April 1, 2015 So I'm thinking of getting a WE M4A1 GBBR "Open - Bolt" which is £299.99 which if I recollect is a good price for a WE GBBR. So... are you guys suggesting an NPAS install won't be beneficial for my gun. If not then what do you suppose I do to bring the fps to 350?
TheGrover Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 As i mentioned, longer/tighter barrel increases fps, shorter/wider barrel reduces fps. You can also buy a 1j bolt which is a nozzle that reduces power by letting less gas through. If youre short of cash but have good tools, you can try cutting the barrel down yourself, though this is a minefield and needs much care and research
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted April 1, 2015 Supporters Posted April 1, 2015 £15 NPAS valves are fine.l use them in both my WE GBBRs. No issues here in over a year.
Supporters M_P Posted April 1, 2015 Supporters Posted April 1, 2015 So I'm thinking of getting a WE M4A1 GBBR "Open - Bolt" which is £299.99 which if I recollect is a good price for a WE GBBR. So... are you guys suggesting an NPAS install won't be beneficial for my gun. If not then what do you suppose I do to bring the fps to 350? Get it from milspec solutions and it will come with a free npas already installed, then you'll be set for playing straight awar
Creature_face Posted April 1, 2015 Author Posted April 1, 2015 Guys I appreciate all the feedback. But I may go with the npas solution cuz it sounds alot easier. And I don't want to make any modifications to the gun whatsoever xD Lozart 1
Supporters M_P Posted April 1, 2015 Supporters Posted April 1, 2015 Guys I appreciate all the feedback. But I may go with the npas solution cuz it sounds alot easier. And I don't want to make any modifications to the gun whatsoever xD Just so you're aware, I'd highly recommend picking up a couple of spare plastic loading nozzles, the WE ones can range from lasting a few hundred rounds up to a several thousand depending on how lucky you are. Worth having at least on spare just in case.
Airsoft_Mr B Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 Mil spec Solutions last time I checked £275 for one + NPAS is included as M_P said. Pretty sure upgrading a GBBR wouldn't be hard anyway though? I don't know what fitting the NPAS involves but must be easier than modifying AEGs
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted April 7, 2015 Supporters Posted April 7, 2015 It's pretty simple, yeah. Field strip it to get to the bolt, undo the nozzle guides on the bolt and push the pin out holding the nozzle return spring. Once the nozzle's out, push the pin through to separate it into two halves. Drop the valve and spring out of the front half, replace with NPAS. Reassemble.Only tricky bit is lining the pins up with the nozzle return spring. Airsoft_Mr B 1
codplayyer47 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 The G&G GBB M4s are actualy pretty good, the mags almost never leak and it has a decent kick. Ive had it for a year and only had 1 problem which was that the hammer spring flew off while i was transporting it in a backpack in two halfs.Its good for the price but it doesnt have a full cycling bolt, it only goes about halfway back if your looking for realism with the action then you might want a WE but i have seen multiple problems with the WE at my local field.
kerby91 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Be different...buy a scar ? Mine has the npas and ive set it to 325fps so if its warm ive got leeway for extra power.
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