kylesesh Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I've been planning on going the whole SS Officer loadout. Uniform, Hat, Boots, Armband, Holster, Luger etc. Would any airsoft site owners have a problem with dressing up in this attire or would the politically correct at the site have a field day and throw me out? Before you ask, no I'm not a racist, but I have always preferred the SS Officer uniform in terms of style and look, compared to British officer looks... And I would only wear it at airsoft sites, and won't be doing my shopping while wearing it. Any suggestions?
Sacarathe Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Suggestions? Swap the Nazi Swastika for the Sanskrit Swastika, then no one can accused you of being thoughtless. Though some forget, people died on the other side too. JamesAirsofterAgent, Monty and jeffery7466 3
Popular Post b1n0gHo5t Posted July 26, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 26, 2015 Anything to do with the nazis should be avoided like the fuckin plague JamesAirsofterAgent, Samurai, jeffery7466 and 4 others 7
Sacarathe Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Anything to do with the nazis should be avoided like the fuckin plague Who do re-enactors and ww2 airsofters play against then? kylesesh 1
kylesesh Posted July 26, 2015 Author Posted July 26, 2015 Exactly, who would the ww2 airsofter play against lol
b1n0gHo5t Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Who do re-enactors and ww2 airsofters play against then? 12 year old Cod rambo super sas elite navy seal gods who else ? Aengus and Happy 2
kylesesh Posted July 26, 2015 Author Posted July 26, 2015 Oh my god, I did Nazi that reply coming lmao, great one skarra333 and DEF 2
Happy Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Personally I'd just keep it for themed WW2 games. Mostly because people sometimes don't have as open a mindset about it as others and strong opinions will be made about your loadout.
kylesesh Posted July 26, 2015 Author Posted July 26, 2015 I really couldn't care if they voice their opinions... its supposed to be an enjoyable day out and if they want to get crappy just because of my loadout then they really need to reorganise their priorities if they get offended by clothing. Airsoft_Mr B 1
TacMaster Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 If I were you I'd just put a standard Wehrmacht officer's loadout together. Some units of the SS were responsible for running concentration camps, and so the SS has a massive stigma surrounding it. The Wehrmacht does not have this stigma as they were combat only, and so you won't have to worry about what others think. In fact, some members of the Wehrmacht saved jews and non-jews from the concentration camps- Anton Schmid, a sergeant in the army, helped about 250 Jewish men, women & children to escape from the Vilnius ghetto and also provided them with forged passports and documents. For this he was court martialled and executed. If you dressed as a standard German Army officer from WWII instead of as an SS officer, you can tell ignorant name callers about Anton Schmid and how he saved so many jews for his own sacrifice. Monty, Airsoft_Mr B and jeffery7466 3
Supporters Samurai Posted July 26, 2015 Supporters Posted July 26, 2015 A good nazi is a dead nazi so I sure go for an overkill when I see one on the filed. With those nazi zombie films around, you never know. ImTriggerHappy, TacMaster and Aengus 3
Baz JJ Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Personally I would avoid skirmishes dressed as SS. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, players will react based on how they feel about it and you can't rely on a high level of knowledge about German units. You either don't care and deal with any prejudice as it happens or you do something else. WW2 themed games shouldn't be a problem. I just came back from War and Peace down in Folkestone and saw lots and lots of Nazi's, many of them real Germans in Tiger tanks.
Popular Post Russe11 Posted July 26, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 26, 2015 Just No. SS uniforms are offensive in the wrong situations. An SS officer impression would not be welcomed even in WW2 airsoft for 2 reasons: Officers are part of the organisation of the game and SS impressions are only useful when the specific scenario is one where SS units would be present. A standard german uniform would be perfectly acceptable. If you want something different then Fallschirmjager or Gebirgsjager are quite cool. beastmode, DEF, Monty and 3 others 6
Russe11 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Nazi zombie loadout however would be totally cool Esoterick and Happy 2
Supporters Esoterick Posted July 26, 2015 Supporters Posted July 26, 2015 I wouldn't chance it and go for one of the German units like Russ mentioned. There was a thread about WW2 German uniforms over on Zero In a while back that quickly became an explosion in a see you next tuesday factory(there's some pretty impressive leaps of logic if you look it up) . Even regular German uniforms seem to upset some people, but SS ones are pushing your luck. ImTriggerHappy 1
Adam3088 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Turning up to a regular skirmish dressed as an SS officer...just no. People look on us badly enough as it is, please don't make it any worse. Can imagine the daily mail article now..
Dannn Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 I wouldn't have an issue with it, they were just another unit. We all go and do our job and get paid for it, we follow orders and that's it. that was theirs and they were very, very good at it. People need to get over it. Sacarathe 1
Popular Post b1n0gHo5t Posted July 26, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 26, 2015 I wouldn't have an issue with it, they were just another unit. We all go and do our job and get paid for it, we follow orders and that's it. that was theirs and they were very, very good at it. People need to get over it. ImTriggerHappy, skarra333, Dannn and 9 others 12
Adam3088 Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Most peoples jobs don't involve crimes against humanity... ImTriggerHappy and n1ckh 2
Sacarathe Posted July 26, 2015 Posted July 26, 2015 Most peoples jobs don't involve crimes against humanity... Can we not push into that discussion, it invariably ends with the "but those who refused were shot", shoot enough people who refuse... etc
Popular Post Fumps Posted July 27, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 27, 2015 The uniform of an SS officer has become a pure reprisentation of hatred from a lot of people from russian, Polish, French, British etc as well as ethnic groups like jewish and gypsy people. The nazi ideals has also become synonyms with opression and because of the regalia has been adopted by hard right racist groups and neo-Nazi organisations, the who ethos of the SS is still deep seeded in hatred by entire generations that is still very much evident to this day. If I was at a skirmish and someone rolled up dressed (By choice) as an SS officer I know there weould be a prize for causing that player as much pain & suffering as possible during the day. Its one of these moments where someones personal belief's would be instantly assumed by others. THe SS carried out horrific war crimes that is so etched into ethnic blood lines that they are still being disscussed and felt to this day and will never be forgotten. To the OP: you may not find the idea of an SS uniform as offensive but others probably will, no one can tell you what to do in life, they can only offer advice and this is one of these moments where I would seriously consider if this is a good idea on your part. Adam3088, ImTriggerHappy, Berto and 2 others 5
Berto Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 This is one of those times where you have to carefully consider what other people's feelings and emotions will be, based in your own actions. Choosing to dress as an officer of the SS WILL cause offence to other people as you will be a physical representation of the atrocities that were commited. Even if you don't mean any offence, it will be caused. If I was you I'd do some research into what the SS did and I don't mean just read Wikipedia. Go to the library, get some books out and learn what happens. The SS commited many many attrociates killing innocents, including women and children, simply based on their beliefs. Crimes so horrendous that they cannot and should not be forgotten. I very much doubt you will want to wear an SS Uniform once you see what they represent, regardless of how smart or stylish they look. Adam3088 and n1ckh 2
skarra333 Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I really couldn't care if they voice their opinions... its supposed to be an enjoyable day out and if they want to get crappy just because of my loadout then they really need to reorganise their priorities if they get offended by clothing.My recommendation:Kid, please, do things in real life smarter, wiser and nicer than any of your current attitude here. ImTriggerHappy, Berto, Samurai and 1 other 4
Supporters M_P Posted July 27, 2015 Supporters Posted July 27, 2015 There's a time and a place. A normal skirmish is neither. Samurai, Monty and Adam3088 3
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted July 27, 2015 Supporters Posted July 27, 2015 I really couldn't care if they voice their opinions... its supposed to be an enjoyable day out and if they want to get crappy just because of my loadout then they really need to reorganise their priorities if they get offended by clothing.To be honest I think their priorities aren't what needs to be reorganised but maybe your attitude does. Berto and b1n0gHo5t 2
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