Matto2494 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Has anybody used tape instead of painting their guns before obtaining ukara Something like this? http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=350772973832&globalID=EBAY-GB
Adam3088 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Fairly sure that's not legal (when purchasing) due to being easily removable. Also you'd never find a reputable retailer which would agree to that.
Shadow Greywolf Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 If you have a TwoTone rifle, you are allowed to use camo tape on your rifle while on an airsoft site, however while transporting and not on an airsoft site you must Remove the camo tape
lafta Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 If you have a TwoTone rifle, you are allowed to use camo tape on your rifle while on an airsoft site, however while transporting and not on an airsoft site you must Remove the camo tape Says who? It's not illegal to own a RIF is it? Hibernator 1
Shadow Greywolf Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Says who? It's not illegal to own a RIF is it? Its not illegal to own a RIF but you must have a Valid Defence to own RIF's, if you dont have a Valid Defence ie; UKARA etc, your Rifle must be TwoTone according to the VCRA (Violent Crimes Reduction Act)
lafta Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 So as soon as your UKARA expires you need to sell or two tone all of your RIFs? I had another quick flick through the VCRA and couldn't see anything about ownership. Just manufacturing, importing and selling. I could of course be wrong, (quite common lol), but if I am then there's a LOT of people misinformed. GingerBreadMan 1
Root Admin proffrink Posted July 30, 2015 Root Admin Posted July 30, 2015 You're right. VCRA only covers the selling and manufacturing of RIFs, not ownership. You still need a valid defence to remove the 2-tone, and so that's why tape should be replaced when leaving a site really. However, let's not forget that playing at that site is a valid defence in its own right, regardless of UKARA or site membership. Frankly, it's all a bit of a mess. Dannn, lafta and Sacarathe 3
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted July 30, 2015 Supporters Posted July 30, 2015 jeez more ukara/vcra stuff lets be real - main thing is not to be a dick with ya gun so if you paint/tape or wtf you like with it it don't matter really before anybody starts quoting friggin paragraph 6 section 7 bollox.... when you leave the site then the gun "should" be transported in a bag/box etc..... so it ain't on show - so nobody is gonna know or care really unless you you gotta a firearms ban - whoooa wrong thread soz jeez & more jeez, it is really about how you conduct yourself with your toy gun tape/paint or friggin' 2-tone - above all don't wave it about in public whatever colour it is Zak Da Mack, Sacarathe and Deek 3
Sacarathe Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 If you have a TwoTone rifle, you are allowed to use camo tape on your rifle while on an airsoft site, however while transporting and not on an airsoft site you must Remove the camo tape Non of this is true. You're "allowed"? More like "can". Its not illegal to own a RIF but you must have a Valid Defence to own RIF's, if you dont have a Valid Defence ie; UKARA etc, your Rifle must be TwoTone according to the VCRA (Violent Crimes Reduction Act) This not true either, except at point of sale. That act makes no mention of ownership in Ss.36-37. Many Airsoft site's gospel on VCRA2006 seems to be BS I have noticed, aimed to make money. The great thing is, it's hard to criticise them without case law.
Deek Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 The VCRA was brought in to deal with a raft of issues that were prevalent at the time, one of which was 'springer kiddies' (young kids running around with realistic looking springer pistols and pointing them at people causing all sorts of headaches for the local Police ARUs). Whilst is does seem a waste of time the VCRA has reduced the incidents of kids running around with realistic looking guns in public. As already pointed out, you do not need a valid defence to own a RIF, but you need a valid defence to buy one or, more accurately, you need to provide a valid defence to the retailer, as it would be the retailer that would be committing the offence. If you modify an imitation firearm so it becomes a realistic imitation firearm then you are committing an offence unless you have a valid defence. One of the easiest ways of demonstrating you have a defence is a UKARA membership. Sitting Duck puts it in a very common sense way - don't be a dick. Many years ago the 'standard' advice on carrying your weapons to and from a skirmish was simple - weapon goes in a case or bag, is transported without batteries or gas in situ and is transported with magazine removed - preferably stored in a separate pouch. If stopped by the Police inform them what you have in the bag / case (toy gun) and ask them if they want you to open it. In the real world there will be very few Police Officers who will know the in's and out's of the VCRA in relation to the IFs and RIFs, so unless you are being an idiot you are not likely to attract their attention.
Recommended Posts