Painting over two-tone

[Guest SK9D]

hello

ive saw multiple threads on here but have not got any answer yet

can i legally piant over an airsoft gun without a ukara?

ive seen alot of people just say ukara is for supplying the rif rather than owning the rather on here and youtube 

sum1 pls help ?

[Guest]

Different rule.

 

Painting over is legally a big no-no as it comes under section 36 of the Violent Crimes Reduction Act:

 

“Section 36 makes it an offence to manufacture, import or sell realistic imitation firearms. It also makes it an offence to modify an imitation firearm to make it realistic”

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-violent-crime-reduction-act-2006-commencement-no-3-order-2007-firearms-measures

 

 

 

[Rogerborg]

2 hours ago, SK9D said:

ive saw multiple threads on here but have not got any answer yet

 

Curious, as we've answered it multiple times.

 

As @rocketdogbertsays, modification is an offence, just as much as manufacture, sale, or import (the act of doing it, or the act of causing it).

 

In all cases, the same defences apply:

 

"a) the purposes of a museum or gallery;

(b) the purposes of theatrical performances and of rehearsals for such performances;

(c) the production of films (within the meaning of Part 1 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48)_see section 5B of that Act);

(d) the production of television programmes (within the meaning of the Communications Act 2003 (c. 21)_see section 405(1) of that Act);

(e) the organisation and holding of historical re-enactments organised and held by persons specified or described for the purposes of this section by regulations made by the Secretary of State;

(f) the purposes of functions that a person has in his capacity as a person in the service of Her Majesty."

 

And then added later:

 

"the organisation and holding of permitted activities for which public liability insurance is held in relation to liabilities to third parties arising from or in connection with the organisation and holding of those activities;"

 

Which gets back to RD's link which says (in the faintest and most erasable pencil) that those "permitted activities" include airsoft skirmishing.

 

Note the requirement for public liability insurance. It does not cover back garden plinking, or running around the woods with your mates.  The production of theatrical performances, films and television programmes does not cover the YouTube channel that you were thinking about possibly getting around to perhaps starting, maybe.

 

That's the complete answer.  Do it, or don't do it, the choice and responsibility is on you. Whatever you decide, please, please, be sensible with the use of it. Don't take it out in public, don't let it be seen by the public - people have found themselves eating pavement with a real gun to the back of their head after filming themselves with RIFs, or had their doors put in just for a two-tone being spotted through a window.

[L3wisD]

@TheUKARAPolice

[Rogerborg]

45 minutes ago, L3wisD said:

@TheUKARAPolice

 

That's what I meant to say.

[Tommikka]

5 hours ago, SK9D said:

hello

ive saw multiple threads on here but have not got any answer yet

can i legally piant over an airsoft gun without a ukara?

ive seen alot of people just say ukara is for supplying the rif rather than owning the rather on here and youtube 

sum1 pls help ?

Basically what they said up above 

 

 

UKARA membership establishes the players valid purpose in line with the VCRA

It is a scheme that was established to protect the industry from closing and protect retailers from prosecution 

 

Possession is not an offence 

Purchase without a valid purpose isn’t an offence, but the seller would be committing an offence 

Modification without a valid purpose is an offence, modifying with a valid purpose probably isn’t an offence 

 

 

Painting while not having UKARA membership means that either:

You have no valid purpose - offence committed 

Or you do have a valid purpose - no offence committed 

1 hour ago, L3wisD said:

@TheUKARAPolice

Pew pew, that’s the sound of da UKARAPolice

[Tiercel]

The amount of re-sprayed former two tones for sale in the classifieds probably answers your question.

 

Is it an offence? *vaguely non-committal shrug noises* does anyone actually care? *more vague shrug noises* Are you actually likely to be caught and prosecuted for doing it? As long as youre not being a dick with it probably not. Do you want to be the trial case in court that decides on the precedent for this issue? Definitely not. Theres only about 3 cops left in the UK, 2 are stuck outside Downing street and the 3rd is busy dealing with someone who said something mean about someone on facebook. Theyre not going to be checking peoples toy guns to see if theres orange under the new black. Dont be a knob and bring it to their attention, and it wont be an issue.

[Cr0-Magnon]

Have some schools broken up for Summer already?

[Rogerborg]

4 hours ago, Cr0-Magnon said:

Have some schools broken up for Summer already?

 

Scotch schools broke up weeks ago, all the kids are up on the roofs sniping away.

[L1ct0r]

We have some serving police officers that play at our site. I asked one this same question. I paraphrase his answer below. 

 

Don't have your RIF on display in public, the firearms squad will treat it as a real weapon until they have satisfied themselves that it isn't. If you are stopped by the police while transporting it (in the boot of the car, or in some kind of slip while on public transport, etc) you will need some form of defence for having it in public. 'I am an Airsoft skirmisher on the way to an Airsoft site' is such a defence. You don't actually need a UKARA number to use that defence and having one is not a magic license to do stuff, it is just an easy way to legitimise your claim because you need a registered site to vouch for you in order to get one. As stated above, you can manufacture a RIF if you have a valid defence. Being an Airsoft skirmisher is such a defence. If a concerned citizen sees you manufacturing a RIF through the kitchen window and calls the police about seeing a scary black gun then the firearms squad won't know you are an Airsofter until they have kicked your door in, and that will be your fault for not being careful enough.

[Rogerborg]

6 hours ago, L1ct0r said:

manufacture

MODIFY

Other than that, top notch answer, I 100% agree.