Tactical Pith Helmet Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 20:46, Floperator said: Couldn't have someone else suckling at my bladder pipe, I'd feel like one of the guests on Eurotrash. On 20/07/2022 at 08:43, Rogerborg said: Wait, what? People have been drinking from your bottle? Even if they thought it was site-supplied, that's manky. Indeed. A group effort, a veritable orgy of fluid theft. The filthy swine. Rogerborg and Tackle 1 1
AirSniper Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 On 19/07/2022 at 09:29, jtame said: Was out on Sunday, 1 hour 15 minute breakthrough type style. Managed ok with plate carrier, 3 mags and rif. No issues with drinking in between, bit of sugar to keep those levels up. Sourcing a hydration pack for taking out. Actually, sugar is your enemy, you just need water because of what sugar does to the kidneys, basically shuts them down until the body can excrete enough insulin to tackle and stor the sugar as fat. If you want to keep your energy levels up, saturated fat food with no added or processed sugars in it and avoid as best you can any carb foods as they are sugars too. Avoid fruit juices, still juices fizzy pops... anything that has sugar in it is going to make you sweat more as your body tries to excrete excess water. Too cold a drink has the opposite effect, your core temp gets dropped and your body automatically switches on its central heating (the liver burning fat) to warm you up, so you compound the problem, a cup of tea or hot chocolate or decaf coffee (not regular coffee because thats as bad as sugar) is better for you as your body will want to cool down. You will find that dowsing yourself with water to assist through evaporation to cool off is much better than dumping lots of cold fluids in to yourself, hydration is important but freezing cold water is a bad move.
Supporters Lozart Posted July 22, 2022 Supporters Posted July 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, AirSniper said: Actually, sugar is your enemy, you just need water because of what sugar does to the kidneys, basically shuts them down until the body can excrete enough insulin to tackle and stor the sugar as fat. If you want to keep your energy levels up, saturated fat food with no added or processed sugars in it and avoid as best you can any carb foods as they are sugars too. Avoid fruit juices, still juices fizzy pops... anything that has sugar in it is going to make you sweat more as your body tries to excrete excess water. Too cold a drink has the opposite effect, your core temp gets dropped and your body automatically switches on its central heating (the liver burning fat) to warm you up, so you compound the problem, a cup of tea or hot chocolate or decaf coffee (not regular coffee because thats as bad as sugar) is better for you as your body will want to cool down. You will find that dowsing yourself with water to assist through evaporation to cool off is much better than dumping lots of cold fluids in to yourself, hydration is important but freezing cold water is a bad move. Where do you get this stuff from? Maybe have a read of this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK26882/#:~:text=During glycolysis%2C a glucose molecule,produced in the later steps. Tackle 1
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 22, 2022 Supporters Posted July 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, Lozart said: Where do you get this stuff from? I've come to assume that he receives transmissions through his metal fillings. Tackle and Hudson 2
Cannonfodder Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, AirSniper said: Actually, sugar is your enemy, you just need water because of what sugar does to the kidneys, basically shuts them down until the body can excrete enough insulin to tackle and stor the sugar as fat. If you want to keep your energy levels up, saturated fat food with no added or processed sugars in it and avoid as best you can any carb foods as they are sugars too. Avoid fruit juices, still juices fizzy pops... anything that has sugar in it is going to make you sweat more as your body tries to excrete excess water. Too cold a drink has the opposite effect, your core temp gets dropped and your body automatically switches on its central heating (the liver burning fat) to warm you up, so you compound the problem, a cup of tea or hot chocolate or decaf coffee (not regular coffee because thats as bad as sugar) is better for you as your body will want to cool down. You will find that dowsing yourself with water to assist through evaporation to cool off is much better than dumping lots of cold fluids in to yourself, hydration is important but freezing cold water is a bad move. Please cite your sources Edit: whilst the usual gibberish you post is just annoying, someone following your dumb as fuck "advice" here could cause them real harm. In future do us all a favour and think before you post bullshit Edited July 22, 2022 by Cannonfodder Rogerborg, Adolf Hamster and Tackle 3
AirSniper Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Cannonfodder said: Please cite your sources Edit: whilst the usual gibberish you post is just annoying, someone following your dumb as fuck "advice" here could cause them real harm. In future do us all a favour and think before you post bullshit Controlling blood sugar helps lessen your risk for getting kidney disease. It can also help slow or even stop kidney disease from getting worse.26 Nov 2014 Managing Blood Sugar For Kidney Health You need water and an electrolyte additive not sugar.
Moderators Tackle Posted July 22, 2022 Moderators Posted July 22, 2022 I'll settle the argument, water am bestest, everything else is OK too.......... IN MODERATION? Your average airsofters isn't a trained nutritional isn't, or dedicated professional sportsman, so doesn't have awareness or desire to monitor all their intake needs, getting through the day in one piece is a bonus, or having the common sense enough to arrive on site with enough fluids, or checking their onsite availability should be a given........ But apparently not ? Rogerborg 1
Cannonfodder Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, AirSniper said: Controlling blood sugar helps lessen your risk for getting kidney disease. It can also help slow or even stop kidney disease from getting worse.26 Nov 2014 Managing Blood Sugar For Kidney Health You need water and an electrolyte additive not sugar. That's in your day to day diet, not during exercise. Obviously an excess intake of sugar over time is going to have negative effect What we're discussing here is refueling during exercise. When we do intense exercise we get our energy from blood sugar (glucose) which is converted to glycogen. When glycogen levels are depleted we feel tired and the quickest way to top your glycogen level back up is a sugary snack or a sports drink (I mean a propper sports drink, eg lucozade not monster etc) Rogerborg 1
Supporters Rogerborg Posted July 22, 2022 Supporters Posted July 22, 2022 Well, we're down the rabbithole now. I'm a zealous convert to minimising sugar intake for us sedentary Western imperialist pig-dogs. And anyone without an underlying health condition, in possession of any amount of body fat, and sufficiently hydrated, should be perfectly capable of turning fat into ketones and functioning fine. However, consuming carbs is just fine too if you're actively engaging in exercise. Citation: the Amazonian Tsimane tribe, who have superb cardiovascular health, a diet of almost entirely carbs, but are constantly active. tl;dr version - water + fat or food + water + a bit of salt + water and you'll be fine. Jacob Wright 1
AirSniper Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 18:15, Cannonfodder said: That's in your day to day diet, not during exercise. Obviously an excess intake of sugar over time is going to have negative effect What we're discussing here is refueling during exercise. When we do intense exercise we get our energy from blood sugar (glucose) which is converted to glycogen. When glycogen levels are depleted we feel tired and the quickest way to top your glycogen level back up is a sugary snack or a sports drink (I mean a propper sports drink, eg lucozade not monster etc) Eating a banana gives you that glucose needed with the added benefits of potassium along with the glucose, fibre, vitamins B6 and C. Unripened bananas contain carbs and ripe bananas contain sugars. Look up "gut bacteria fibre and glucose" and find studies that might help you recharge your energy levels. Electrolytes replaces what you lose from sweating, if you have a camel pouch / pack, add in soluble electrolytes to your water, you can add some flavouring or get flavoured electrolytes. The best way to fuel up I have found is to have a full english, my prefered style is Streaky Bacon, Chipolata Sausages, Free range eggs, Mushrooms, Plum tomatoes and toasted sourdough bread. One of those breakfasts is more than enough to carry me through the day with a light lunch around 1pm and a treat on the way home of a burger and discuss the days play over a bit of junk food intake. If you look up the vitamin and mineral content of a full english, you realise quickly why its the best start to the day. Bacon and sausages contains : Vitamins B1, B2, B3, B5, B6 and B12. 89% of the RDA for selenium. 53% of the RDA for phosphorus. Decent amounts of the minerals iron, magnesium, zinc and potassium. Eggs : vitamin B2 (riboflavin), vitamin B12, vitamin D, selenium and iodine. They also contain vitamin A and a number of other B vitamins including folate, biotin, pantothenic acid and choline, and other essential minerals and trace elements, including phosphorus. Mushrooms : zinc, magnesium, copper, potassium, selenium, phosphorous, and a number of B vitamins and antioxidants. They are also a fairly good source of fiber. Plum Tomatoes : vitamin C, potassium, folate, and vitamin K. Sourdough Bread : iron, manganese, calcium, B1-B6, B12, folate, zinc, potassium, thiamin, niacin, riboflavin, selenium, iron, manganese, magnesium, phosphorus, and vitamin E Regular pan bread like supermarket bread : proteins, vitamin B complexes and minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, manganese, magnesium, zinc and copper So a full english will set you up for the biggest part of your day and all you need to do to top up when you feel the need. So next time someone tells you that your full english is bad for you, you can reel off all the vitamins and minerals that you are getting to benefit your body.
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