adding attachments to a IF legality

[Wegalaxy]

Is adding attachments which are black to a two tone IF legal or does it class as manufacturing a RIF? Or is it not classed as a modification if they are simply attached?

Thanks 

[Guest]

If you’re replacing the two toned part with a black part, then yes, manufacturing.

[Cannonfodder]

1 hour ago, Wegalaxy said:

Is adding attachments which are black to a two tone IF legal or does it class as manufacturing a RIF? Or is it not classed as a modification if they are simply attached?

Thanks 

I take it you mean things like an AFG or sight. If so then I'd say you're fine. If you mean changing things that are 2 toned then as above*

 

*I'm not a lawyer so don't take this as legal advice, just an opinion.

 

In reality as long as you don't do anything stupid with the IF then you'll be fine either way

Edited April 15, 2023 by Cannonfodder

[Wegalaxy]

Yes.

Just like barrel attachments.

No two tone will be covered or replaced

Thanks 

[Wegalaxy]

@rocketdogbertI am thinking about adding a mock flash hider on the muzzle which is already black. So just adding more black but not touching the 2 tone.

Would this be legal?

Thanks

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Wegalaxy said:

@rocketdogbertI am thinking about adding a mock flash hider on the muzzle which is already black. So just adding more black but not touching the 2 tone.

Would this be legal?

Thanks

Yes, as stated above

[Rogerborg]

Please stop this. 

1 hour ago, rocketdogbert said:

If you’re replacing the two toned part with a black part, then yes, manufacturing.

 

M O D I F I C A T I O N.

 

See if you can find anyone who will ever care though.

 

@Wegalaxy, while it's commendable that you're being careful, there is such a thing as inventing problems where none exist.

 

If you're in the UK, and if your use of whatever toy you have is on (properly) private land, then nobody is ever going to care what you're doing, or with what, or how you got / made it.

 

On the other hand, if you're going to run around the local dogging woods reenacting John Wick, then it won't matter if your toy is 0%, 49%, 51% or 100% orange.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Rogerborg said:

Please stop this. 

 

M O D I F I C A T I O N.

 

See if you can find anyone who will ever care though.

 

@Wegalaxy, while it's commendable that you're being careful, there is such a thing as inventing problems where none exist.

 

If you're in the UK, and if your use of whatever toy you have is on (properly) private land, then nobody is ever going to care what you're doing, or with what, or how you got / made it.

 

On the other hand, if you're going to run around the local dogging woods reenacting John Wick, then it won't matter if your toy is 0%, 49%, 51% or 100% orange.

Not that I care, but can you link or quote the parts of the legislation that specify please

[Rogerborg]

27 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:

Not that I care, but can you link or quote the parts of the legislation that specify please

 

Yes.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Rogerborg said:

 

Yes.

 
???

 

Will you, please, genuinely interested before I quit airsoft, thank you

[Rogerborg]

12 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:

 
???

 

Will you, please, genuinely interested before I quit airsoft, thank you

 

Ah, go on then.

 

 

It's just a pet peeve when folk say "manufacture" when there's a crystal clear and explicit "modifies" offence right there.

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Rogerborg said:

 

Ah, go on then.

 

 

It's just a pet peeve when folk say "manufacture" when there's a crystal clear and explicit "modifies" offence right there.

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36

genuine question though, is there a definition of what constitutes “manufacture” and what constitutes “modify”, or is it on a case by case basis?

[SBoardley]

I can see this thread getting gnarly. 

[Rogerborg]

12 minutes ago, SBoardley said:

I can see this thread getting gnarly. 

 

Nah, I'm out.

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

 

Nah, I'm out.

 

So I’m right then ???

[Neptune]

12 hours ago, rocketdogbert said:

genuine question though, is there a definition of what constitutes “manufacture” and what constitutes “modify”

Yes, when not defined in the Act, you fall back to the dictionary.

 

Manufacture: something made from raw materials by hand or by machinery

 

Modify: to undergo change

 

If you're replacing two tones parts on an imitation firearm, you are modifying an imitation firearm so that it becomes a realistic imitation firearm. Just as section 36, (1)(a) describes above.