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Just because something has been removed from it's packaging, it doesn't magically lose 30% of it's value. Sure, it may not be brand new and sealed but who really cares if something has been opened and test fitted and then put back in the packaging. As long as someone hasn't fucked it up with scratches and stuff from the fitting, so what? Is it any different from a retailer, in this case Airsoft Global stating this? "Whenever we test any guns, scratch can't be avoided. Therefore, we are hoping that you may consider carefully before you purchase it! But we can guarantee that all items are brand new." If someone has gone to the trouble of going through the waiting time of importing something, paying customs fees etc, I see no reason why you wouldn't pay a bit less than the "brand new" price to save that time and end with something in the same state as it will be when you open the packet. The whole paying full price for customer support and warranty is also kind of overrated. Sure, for some stuff you absolutely want that in case it's properly borked but I'd guess lots of things can easily be sorted for lower that the cost of return postage to a retailer. You just have to evaluate the risk on an item by item basis. You're pretty safe with accessories and similar, especially ones that don't involve any electronics. I think at the end of the day, just be honest and make sure stuff is described accurately. Now if people are trying to pass stuff like a RIF off as "only skirmished once, as new", and trying to get retail price, now that's a no no.

You can’t really boil anything down to a general consensus. The 60-70% is more a starting point based on retail prices if you’re entirely clueless on a fair price (which is why that’ll often be the outcome of advice on appraisal threads), but it’s much more a guideline than anything else. Real steal, airsoft, brand new, used is all largely irrelevant. There are two things that really matter in all of it in regard to those terms which are condition and warranty (or lack thereof). The other things to consider being availability, desirability, whether the price is an ‘all in’ price (which based on previous experience of buying from Rob I believe they are, please correct me if I’m wrong @RMDavis) and whether the seller is looking to shift their wares quickly. The only reason I’d personally be considering adjusting any price down on would be on the K2, despite the fact that within theory the cerakoting would increase the value it makes it more niche so the chances of a quicker sale would likely see a lower price… if the seller doesn’t care about ‘shifting things quickly’ then that’s largely irrelevant. As noted at the top of this post, the 60-70% is a guideline not a rule and there are various things (mostly subjective) which can adjust that percentage up on down from either the seller or the buyers perspective. My perspective as a ‘bystander’ prices a fine, but I’d expect them to take a while to sell at those prices because they aren’t ‘hype items’ that all the cool folks on YouTube that airsofters tend to watch are running around using. Now, that’s not to say they’re bad by any stretch… they’re just not rammed down your throat like Magpul and BCM tend to be as a consumer in the UK picking up RS kit (and no, that’s not to say I think Magpul or BCM are bad either… simply better/more prolific marketing).

£22.55 from Brownell's (in OD green or black and brown) and a further £5.99 for delivery £28.54 total brand new (70% of retail would be £19.99) Strike 1 £31.90 again brownell's, £5.99 delivery. £37.89 total brand new (70% retail would be £26.52) Strike 2 £67.65 Brownell's, 5.99 delivery. Total £73.64 brand new (70% retail would make this £51.55) Strike 3, you're out! I get that it's real steal stuff but even at 80% of retail value those items seems a bit over priced to me. Those prices are so close to retail that I'd buy new just to the new item smell and the unboxing/opening experience of a new item. Maybe I'm being unreasonable here?

Off to bed now. Early start for greenops in morning. Gonna roast tomorrow! ☀️

But they're not (a bit blunt, but not trying to be rude) both those two items, you say you have tested fitted so by definition they can not be brand new. You can say they're used but like new or open box but definitely not brand new. The general consensus on this forum tends to be unless its from a retailer, you don't class something as new even if unopened. Part of paying full retail price is the customer support and warranty they are legally obligated to provide. Something you as a private non commercial seller don't have to do. Again, not to familiar with the real steal market but I think the same rules still largely apply. Someone chime in if have more experience/info to offer.

Yeah your probably right, but a price can only come down right? I've amended the used pistol grip but the hand-stop and Ergo are brand new so I'm sticking at those prices. Plus with the issue's with US air freight it took nearly 2 months to get here... Time is money and all that. Personally I only feel the need to apply the '70% retail' to used items. If your selling something brand new I think its irrelevant.

Mws with good stuff removed and shit stuff added...MOAR MUNNIES PLEASE.

Got the Angry Gun suppressor on, together with the Magpul CTR stock and MOE+ grip,and mounted the Vortex Crossfire just to see what it looks like. MK18 RIS II rail arrived today, as have a Laylax wrench, a PTS adapter ring and a couple of spare TM hop rubbers. A new trigger guard and cheek riser are inbound and I'm waiting to get either a BCM Gunfighter or Magpul RVG foregrip, some new BUIS and maybe a PEQ and weapon light, then I'll start on the final version...until the HAO SMR arrives ?

More like delusional...?

I’ll give him his dews he’s persistent, it’s back up again ! ?

I love my postman, and Black Rifle for exceptional service. Ordered this at 15:20 yesterday, arrived before midday today ?

Two latest addition to my little arsenal. Not had a pistol in a long time but as I'll have to play to MED rules I needed one. Had 3 scopes laying around from old rifles but they are all dove tail fitment so have to order picatinny ones now before I can doll up the striker.

I'm gonna grass you up. You are spending far too much. ? Regards

Probably going to sweat to death during my next game but eh, it's a bit of fun right?