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Pretty amused to see another load of drugs advertised on the site. As if anyone on here would waste cash on drugs when there are toy guns to purchase.

I've never been a fan of banning things as the issue is usually the soft fleshy bit holding it. I'd rather sites booted those who act like twats, whether it's not calling hits, overshooting or something else

My problem with airsoft remains the number of people who are not there primarily to play airsoft. If they were, they wouldn't have to be nagged, cajoled and herded out of the safe zone game after game after game. Whether it's socialising, geardo-peacocking, clowning for an audience, or whatever other reason, I generally have a better day hanging out with enthusiastic rentals or new players keen to know what they ought to be doing, rather than regulars who have firmly fixed ideas which can often vary wildly from the briefing that they've just talked over.

Finally got it all together with my 3d printed parts. 3d printed mag well 3d printed foregrip 3d printed tac torch mount 3d printed wall mount and MAG rack all in petg I have swapped out the stock barrel and bucking for a ZCI 6.02 294mm barrel and Prometheus purple bucking and nub and a ZCI high torque motor Now it's nice and snappy and very accurate

Dragon Valley run all their games limited ammo (or did last time I played there) only allowed to carry 600rds on you but you can go back to safezone to bomb up . Support guns 2000rds BUT it’s only classified as a support gun if there is a real world equivalent, so no claiming “this is my support gun !” As you stand there with your M4 pistol and a drum mag ! ?‍♂️

Since we're well off topic now, I heard a player-marshal grumbling after a game that he'd "hit someone, and the cheeky cnut had put his hand up, then ducked back into cover." I kindly let him know that the cheeky cnut was in fact waving cheerily at him because his BBs were dropping about 3m short. Perhaps ill advised, but he was already convinced that he was hitting me and would have been salty anyway, so I might as well have fun with it.

As said if you're a dick you're a dick.We played yesterday and there is always a few regular troublesome younger "coders" running HPA's .I say troublesome because they are always getting tagged for non-hit taking, etc,I mean this regularly.It also happens that they are friends of some of the marshalls,so much so that yesterday I heard one of them in question ask the marshall if there was a ROF limit,the coversation continued until the marshall went into the players backpack and made an adjustment for him (you can enlighten me) and the ensuing ROF was crazy.It doesn't personaly bother me so much but you can hear newbies asking WTF!!I think a cap will happen when someone gets tired of being overshot by these types or until someone gets hurt.I know you can hose anyone with any gun but higher ROF makes it easier.

Decent toilets always outweigh food. Clean, toilet roll and soap trumps some dodgy hotdog. Bringing your own food will possibly even remove any desperate need of the site toilet facilities.

No worries there mate. They wouldn't lol If they told you to jump off a cliff I take it you would.

Are they the same guidelines that our government adhere to. ?

Quite right, you wouldn't whip your Glock out at the local Club Chlamydia. Good point about the dick-rule covering this issue, and it all being down to proactive, constructive marshalling. One thing I'd pick up on is the belief that it's OK to flip the wankergun-switch to punish an OMG CHEETAR. It doesn't solve the underlying problem. I'm not saying that it's not funny and satisfying to do so, just be honest about why you're doing it. You're only making the situation worse by escalating it. On the ultimate sanction, I'd like to see a lot more players getting hoofed right out of the hobby, whether it's for persistent cheating, cheat calling, or wanker-gunning. I'd be willing to bet that regularly inviting the most toxic player of the day to not come back would pay off in terms of the potential players that get silently lost because of them. Hard to quantify though.

inb4 all the "never use silicone on a hop rubber" posts. it should just be good to go, just be sure when you have the barrel and hop unit re-assembled to check that everything is nice and centred and the adjustment is working fine, you may need to "twiddle" a bit to get it all sitting nice.

Ultimately cheats will always cheat, & dicks will be dicks. & too many sites are only interested in chasing pound notes than enforcing rules, even their own ☹️

In that case I suggest some kind of protection for the lens on the light as they can easily be shot out.

Disregard females. Search for fill valves and winding wheels.

Honest opinion.... stupidity on both of you's side. Why has your common sense not kicked in that buying from abroad, especially privately wouldn't be an absolute nightmare? Paperwork as it's an imitation firearm for a start and then probably that YOU have a valid defence for receiving it. He does seem to have messed you about a bit and has gone quite scatty with it but just claim the money back and learn from this.

I'm fairly new to airsoft having started in Sept. One of the things that got my attention was rate of fire, in that it excited me. I wanted to buya fast firing rif. I recently bought a chrono Purely to see the rps of mine and my sons ( box std) arp556. His was 15rps and mine is 13rps. This surprised me as I thought it was much higher. Given the amount of bb I can get through in a day I don't want anything faster and really can't see why more than 20 rps would be needed? Infact my preferred rate is now 3 round burst as its plenty. Full auto is only for non callers now. I've no problem with those that want to go faster or what propels them. Only real problem I've come across is the drum mag users. Granted I use high caps at 350 rounds but they are nothing compared to what seems minutes on end from the drummers, from behind their cover ! Really slows or stops the game some days. I've also noticed bar post teen walk ons, it's seems the drummers are the ones who don't call hits more often? I sniped one drummer with 3 body shots Sunday from about 40 - 30m as he did a terminator walk across open ground. On the 3rd hit he turned and sprayed me. I just stuck 2 fingers up at him but also then got head shot by a fellow sniper lol so I called hit and off i went.

Pussys, dicks and arseholes. Airsoft has always been this way, I find I just take on the challenge of out smarting them and making the way they play ineffective for them. I do completely get that dick players don’t do any good for potential newbs. However of all airsoft gripes dishonesty and non hit taking are the game day killers for me.

As a HPA sniper (best of both worlds!), I'll add spring snipers to that list. Plenty of spring snipers who go for headshots, try to inflict pain because it's "funny" and ignore their MED. Not all HPA users are dicks, just like not all dicks are HPA users.

If you track back further and look at the other troughs before the rise in case, you'll see the biggest leap was just after BLM kicked off. Actual real world data from the John Hopkins University who are collecting all world data and this guy used that data to plot an alternative graph that demonstrates why we are not going to be over COVID and that we almost had it licked back at the time BLM kicked off. Each subsequent gathering to protest and demonstrate has led to sudden rises in cases. There is no coincidence as it repeats with each bunch of idiots out shouting about stuff when we need to have people just follow the rules and get over themselves. If its not Extinction Rebellion or its offshoot, Insulate Britain, its BLM or protests about lockdowns and vaccinations. The way things are going is going to be lockdown and all because people refuse to follow the guidelines that are there to prevent spread. https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?location=United+Kingdom As I say often,.... You can lead a horse to slaughter but you can't make it shoot itself.

I would completely agree with everything you just said there @EDcase except the Omicron variant shows it's not just down to us all doing the right thing, it's down to all the leaders in all the countries trying to do the right thing too, and the rich countries helping the poorer ones with vaccines etc. It's a world-wide responsibility. So while I don't want that to be an excuse for people here ignoring the advice and the temporary rules, I fear that as long as there are pockets of the global community where vaccines haven't been widely distributed or used, there'll be new variants popping up that can cause more trouble. it's going to be a long while before we can get back to a truly normal existence.

Have a turn out before you arrive all’s good ? I heard dirty burgers are good for your biome ?

I'm sure we can all agree the government is comprised of toffs living in their privileged world with nothing but personal gains on their little minds. BUT They occasionally listen to the doctors and medical experts advising what to do. It should be very clear after two years of this shit situation that its only going to go away if EVERYONE does their bit to protect themselves and each other. The anti-vaxers and people moaning about loosing their rights are precisely the reason we're still in this situation. Luckily the new Omicron variant seems to have less serious symptoms but the more people who are infected the more likely it is to mutate into a worse variant.

yeah, that extra bit of a nub is a neat idea, but tbh i've never found issue with the standard setup as you just install the barrel before the nub and hop arm. its a tricky one to gauge, generally when pulling the box fully apart to do it a lot of it still based on feel anyway (well, at least if you're going for the basic static check). generally chrono is the best quantative measure- lower the fps dispersion the better

I like to have a ROF similar to the real steel, but then 95% of the time, I use semi or two round burst. I have played against others with all sorts of ridiculous rates of fire and I think fair enough if that is what they want. Even funnier taking these players out with no need for over kill.

looks like the stock hop nub (red bit) is a weird proprietary shape, but it also looks like if you slide it out sideways the omega nub will sit normally in the arm. reckon that extra bit of material that's in the top is to stop the nub from falling out (which is the inevitable outcome of cutting corners and not dissassembling the hop before pulling the barrel with a standard nub) normally i'd caution against spring changes until certain the air seal is pretty consistent, as a low energy reading could be an adequate spring losing most of its puff to an air leak, but sounds like 'borgs silicone down the nozzle trick has helped a bit in that regard (also possible the macaron feedlips are sealing better to the nozzle)

Id happily pay that but needs to be banging hot food available FOC

AND he knocked on the door and waited until someone answered! (Admittedly it was me, and it took me approximately 3.2 seconds to run down the stairs as I got that spidey-sense tingle, in spite of the fact that just 4 minutes prior I'd sent an email to JD Airsoft to ask if my gun had been sent yet, as the order status was still 'preparing'!) And he smiled nicely and wished me a happy Xmas. So actually an effort 'Worthy Of Laudation' from the UPS chap this time.

Something we can agree on ?

I'm not restricted in any way. I work, I go out where and when I like. I don't wear a mask. What restrictions?

Rubber on to barrel dry and gentle, then a wipe of silicon lube on the outer, away from the lip, to ease it all into the hop unit. I found it helps if units are a little tight, and stops the rubber from being distorted or torn.

Spot on, I played at an old power station in Kent years ago, great morning session, broke for lunch & approx 30 min later the organiser asks for everyones attention, turned around thinking it's the briefing for the next session, next thing stripper music comes on & some bird starts taking her kit off, I turned my back on it & got back to getting my kit in order, at which point I teammate nudges me & says "oy tack, you gone gay", I tell him "I've come to play, not watch some ropey tart get her kit off, there's a time & a place for this crap", load up & head outside. Point is, gamedays are for playing, sure you can have some bantz when doing it but hanging around for anything that doesn't involve shooting peeps, not my bag, & if a sites not on top of this, I usually don't go back ?

100% they will and I could always be wrong. But if you're willingly entering in to a recreational activity the probability is that you have a desire to engage in the game within the rules set down by the organisers and I think that applies to an especially high level in your average weekend skirmish given there is no prize to the 'winner' (if there even is an announced winner). That's probably why the most competitive players who for some reason really want to win the fake Sunday battle and run around with a HPA'd drum mag Hi-Capa are often perceived to be the most likely to cheat and be dicks - whether they are or not I have no evidence to say. Maybe if we got rid of all other rules and just upped a walk-on fee to at least £35-45 and sites became a lot happier to boot people we'd see a big improvement? Maybe not though if someone was further financially invested in their game than usual. But then if more marshals could be hired and they were better compensated for their time... swings + roundabouts. End of the day safety actually is the number 1 priority and not over-shooting is very important in that regard. The one thing I don't think is the answer is just to say 'fuck it nothing will work or change' and not try anything. I'd go as far to say I'm confident in that regard, but some folks will say the problem isn't large enough and that is purely a personal perception matter and impossible to reconcile for most people.

What does it change though? No more big events with lots of people? There will always be those. Covid is not something we get over. We will live with it forever. Just hopefully in a similar manner to the common cold as it gets further diluted from mutations.

it's an idea i like, as you say problematic to enforce, but good in principle for changing up the game dynamic of a regular skirmish without necessarily screwing anyone over for not having things like low caps etc. problem is, like most things in this sport, it's not the ones who are playing fairly and following the in-place rules that are the problem, so adding more rules won't necessarily fix it. this is true, and a trap we've all fallen foul of at some point, even if you're usually an ok judge of things unless you actually see the rounds land then it always remains a possibility. although that doesn't mean non-hit calling isn't a thing, it absolutely is ranging from legitimate no-feels (something no player is immune to, no matter how honest) to tunnel vision to just straight up plot armour.

And that's the problem 99% of non hit taking is the shooter not hitting the target. So the problem is the player with super duper gun that can shoot laser straight and hit a 2 inch target at 100m can't judge distance for shit. So when they get frustrated at the non hit taker and move position to actually be in range and then then light up the player "who didn't take their hits" they become the arse hole ruining people's days. As Marshall I pull up far more people for shouting take your hit than actual non hit taking.

I prefer to do controlled burst with full auto but only because of the delay on 3 shot burst,I know the delay is minimal but it is there and during a game it is noticable.On the other hand my m8 loved it.

HPA user here... personally I love to use semi and only use Full auto when someone deserves it (Not hit taking) - I can adjust the ROF on mine to Wanker level...but why? All your doing as advertising that you a cunt and there is no need. One lad on our site who plays every now and again sets his up to fire at a billion rps...and everyone thinks he's a knob. Marshalls informed and aware and chrono'd to right limits...but still a wanker for running something that fast and overshooting peeps as well. (He's young and I think trying to show off to his mates with his setup all the time) I always wary of peeps on the site, even more so for rentals & new players..we need more peeps coming into Airsoft, not driving them away by shooting the crap out of them with silly ROF setups. **Btw using HPA as an example...seen plenty of peeps with DSG builds and high ROF builds being dicks as well... But it's airsoft..and people are people.... Merry Xmas everyone.

tbh, i don't think even that works out for a sufficiently determined arse.

Decent human being + low ROF gun = ✔️ Decent human being + high ROF gun = ✔️ Nobber + low ROF gun = ✔️ Nobber + high ROF gun = ❌ They shamble among us. Yesterday was a constant litany of "No full auto into the buildings!", over and over and over. Some people just can't be told, and sites aren't going to kick them out, no matter how often they threaten to do so. I'd rather that temptation was never put in their paws in the first place.

Fixed those for ya ?

Bang on. Its the players which make or break the dayon a site and if anyone is acting like a like a prick with an extreme rate of fire it should be the marshals who have a word and make it known that they need to curb it or leave.

This is the absolute truth, unfortunatly when you get players who are and who are packing guns with insane ROF the day tends to down the toilet pretty rapidly. Not a fan of HPA personally but the high ROF issue doesn't just apply to them , plenty of aegs with stupidly high ROF too and all too often you get a knob using one .

Anything over say 30 rps could be limited to real cap mags only , that would encourage more use of semi and just short bursts of auto. Mag changes would slow things down if anyone wants to go full wanker mode.

We call them wanker guns for a reason. Anything over 20rps and you're playing a different game from the rest of us, whether you get there via HPA, DSG or a 40-Mike.

i have in the past dabbled with the brrrt side of things and tbh whilst you can punch through undergrowth that a slower rof couldn't, it's otherwise of limited utility, certainly if it's being acheived at the expense of accuracy. it wasn't long at all before i was voluntarily dialing it back because it was difficult to not send more than the necessary amount of plastic downrange. generally the figure that i've heard most sites implementing is 30rps, which tbh could still be argued to be on the fast side, and as long as it's applied equally (as in any gun is limited not just hpa) then i don't see it as a particularly unfair rule. with that said, folks can still be a dick and overshoot with a lower rate of fire, it just takes longer.

I've just come back from a game where there were a few HPA gunners. I think they were all running mid cap mags so no real problem with the total amount of BB's flying around but it's noticeable there's some (good natured) chuntering in the ranks if/when they all end up on one team because it instantly throws out any balance. And judging by the line of bee stings running up my thigh from a burst I took at 10+ metres, I don't think the regulators are left untouched after the chrono in the morning. That did piss me off

I generally only use single shot anyway, & have played a few game days where only single shot was allowed, & I gotta say it rocked, made people think about their gameplay, didn't stop some from spamming their trigger though, but still way way better than the usual hose fest. Thing is, most players do almost everything to emulate what they believe to be a combat scenario, from load outs & webbing etc, & then some feel the need to turn their gats in to hypersonic sewing machines ffs, & any modicum of realism is blown out of the window. I consider what we do to be a sport, in some form anyway, but in other recognised sports there's generally an expectation or requirement of a reasonably level playing field, you'd never get away with such extreme modifications to your playing kit. I'd like to see gamedays catering for specific setups OCCASIONALLY, a day where run wot ya brung high speed setups with box mags are OK, or single shot days, or gas only days etc etc, maybe one gameday in three ?, & the rest of the time I'd expect a fairly "normal" set of rules to govern what's acceptable ?

High ROF is not the issue ( i don't see the point you can still suppress with low ROF and save ammo) but the player them selves as only one person is having fun when some one gets lit up with 60rd and the person having fun is an arsehole. site I play at doesn't have rof restrictions, but if you're spamming people words will be had.